According to Wiki, 'To date, the Hamilton Tiger-Cats are the only club that has publicly expressed interest in hosting the (2019 Grey Cup).''Should the Tiger-Cats host the game, temporary seating would be installed with the goal to raise seating capacity to 40,000.'
If the Ticat's host the Grey Cup, they will have 24,000 built in seats. According to the Ticats, any additional seats will cost about $100 each to install, so they will have to charge north of $100 for each seat just to break even.
I don't believe the Ticats could sell 40,000 seats - if you thought the 2016 Toronto Grey Cup was ugly, Hamilton would be worse. TBH, I'm not sure they could break 30,000 - especially if they are well priced.
Assuming Hamilton does host, how many seats do you believe they could sell, at what average ticket price, and what kind of profit (if any) would they see?
If I am Bob Young, I pass on hosting because I don't think it can make money.
If I get stuck hosting it, I don't add any additional seats and I charge the moon for the 24,000. I'd have an average ticket price of $400 which would mean $10,000,000 in ticket revenue, and I pray the SRR get in the game.
I also know it could blow up in my face and I could end up losing my shirt.
I think people are referring to 1996 as a reason why not to host it. That season, the CFL was in a very dark place and that game many thought would have been the last ever. Not a great selling feature.
Toronto had a bad turnout in 1992 and people said the same things to stay away only to host 2 very sucessful ones in 2007 and 2012 before ***ing the 2016 game. If tickets were reasonable from the start, it woule have been fine.
Going back to Hamilton, the legal fight is keeping the hosting duties away and I don't see it being resolved anytime soon.
If it can't be resolved then put 2019 in Vancouver and use it as a tool to accelerate a sale there.
I doubt the legal issues with the Stadium will be resolved by then, and to be honest, while it does coincide with the 150 anniversary of the team, I think you need to have it out west a few times before hosting. I think a lot of CFL fans are tapped out with Southern Ontario having done Toronto and Ottawa back to back, and while I love my city, I have no illusions that people would rather visit the capitals before us.
If we do end up hosting, will it make money? I think the fact Hamilton hasn't had a cup in ages and that will drive local sales, but Hamilton is not Regina. You aren't going to fill 40,000 with Ti-Cat fans, even they do make the cup. If it makes money, it will be because ticket prices were kept reasonable which will make it an easier away crowd decision. If it doesn't it will be because they priced similar to Ottawa (which I think they could have gotten away with a higher price frankly) or Toronto.
The $100/seat cost to install temporary seating would depend greatly on how many seats that they might choose to install. The higher the stands, the more supporting structure it needs. If they chose to only expand to 35k, the installation cost per seat would be significantly less.
The Ticats should host the 2019 GC(what else would they be waiting for...global warming?) It's the 150th Anniversary of the team's incorporation in a room above George Lee’s Fruit Store in 1869, when the Hamilton Foot Ball Club was formed. (They were certainly one of the earliest football team's ever, long predating U.S. city football teams and even before the English Rugby Football Union was created.)
I'd suggest adding one 8,000-seat temporary grandstand, bringing total attendance to 32,000.Grey Cup's today could no more have a deficit thana man could have a baby.
Could they pair it with another big drawing event so that the cost of the temporary seating could be spread over multiple events, sort of like Ottawa did with the Grey Cup and Ottawa Senators game? Perhaps a big stadium concert like Ed Sheerhan or a neutral site NHL game. I've been to a Ti-Cats game at THF. I thought it was a nice venue. It would be a shame if they couldn't host a Grey Cup there, IMO.
It has been just over 20 years since Hamilton hosted a cup, and the hosted to just under 40 000 then (38 595). Are you suggesting that the interest in football and/or the population has decreased in that time? Otherwise, I see no reason they could not sell to around 40 000.
Also, if they are having a respectable season then they do not have to actually charge a minimum of 100 per seat (which is doable anyways). Staging around 10000 of them for the LDC and filling them provides some solid extra funding. When the Riders hosted in 2013 it was a big reason for their fiscall success....they added seats through the season, not just the GC.