He had the poorest numbers of all starting QBs last year except for Lemon.
QB rating: 8th
He didn't give his team a chance to win. Your defense did with its stellar play. With even a competent offense, it's possible that the Bombers could have won the Grey Cup.
Also to say we are the only team without a leg starter is crap. All of a sudden Jyles is legitimate?
My apologies, I'd forgotten about Jyles when I was doing my quick mental survey of the other QBs.
Take any teams (for sure Montreal) starting QB out, and there is going to be trouble.
Agreed, but YOU were the one who talked about Winnipeg's superior QB depth, not me.
Thnk/say what you want about Brink/Elliott/Goltz, in the end it comes down to opinion. I believe that at least one out of these 3 will become a starter, much better chances than say a Mcpherson or Porter who have been around for years, and have done little.
In the end, TBH, I think it comes down to fans not being able to take their fan goggles off and evaluate their team fairly with respect to the rest of the league. I never said Winnipeg's QB depth was [i]bad[/i]. I simply disputed the idea that it was the envy of the league. Frankly, I think Winnipeg's depth is better than Edmonton's, and about equal to everyone else's. As in, you have a couple of talented prospects who haven't proven anything yet (Brink and Elliott) and a fourth-stringer who undoubtedly has talent but about whom we can gauge nothing, because he's never taken a snap of meaningful CFL football and it's easy to look great on paper (Goltz). That's every team, don't kid yourself. Every team's fans are high on the fourth-stringer, because he hasn't yet had the opportunity to disappoint.
As for Porter and McPherson, I agree that Porter has disappointed in the time he's gotten to start, but McPherson has barely played, not because he's not good, but because we've had a legitimate starter the whole time. He's done some good things in limited opportunity, and he's also struggled. Pretty much what I could say about Brink and Elliott, right? I'd say Montreal's QB depth is about equal to Winnipeg's, except that we have the edge with our starter. Maybe you guys have an edge because the backups have played more, but that's a far cry from being the envy of the league.
I'm not slagging the Bombers, man, really I'm not. I just don't see what makes your QB depth special.
BTW - I used the AC example because you stated that in the 3 games brink has played he has done very little. I am not going to base his career potential on these 3 games, and all football fans should be glad that you weren't a coach during AC's early career, because you obviously thought very little of him then.
Oh, can the ad hominem attacks, man. I'm not slagging you or AC or anyone. My rebuttal to you was that any fan of any team can trot out the "AC was crap early and became a star later" argument to justify poor play from a young QB. So what makes Winnipeg special? It's like there's no middle ground for you: either I have to say the Bombers are the best ever or I'm saying they're garbage. Neither one is true.
Why am I ragging on Willis? Because you and your buddy keep coming on here and telling us how much me miss him. You tried to make the foolish assessment that he would provide consistency to our Dline, and that just threw out any crediblity you had on the subject. It also does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that when a team can play all their starters at any given area (Dline) they will/should have better games. We have not done that yet.
I'm not foolish, I simply have a different opinion. And considering how the Bombers have struggled in the first third of the season, it's not an unreasonable opinion to have.
As far as your last point - what the hell are you trying to say? That Willis and Kent are doing better individually than the Bombers as a team??
It's about as valid a point as talking about how they're 'doing' on different teams in abstraction, isn't it? They're both playing and making contributions to teams with better records than the Bombers. So obviously they must be doing something right.
You made the comment that we miss these players. We have stated OVER and OVER that is false.
And I disagree with your [i]opinion[/i]. Ease down, there.
Look, I'm not trying to set myself or my team up as god here. I made a bunch of preseason predictions that have been woefully off the mark. I thought my Als would be in contention for first, that Hamilton would be in third. I thought we'd have a great defense; we have a brutal defense that has improved recently but still can't hold its opponent to fewer than 30 points most games. I thought Aaron Hunt would be a difference-maker; he was released four games into the season. I thought our coaches would be able to tell if we had the linemen to play a 3-4; I was wrong, and they made a mistake. But at least I'm not still trying to justify those preseason predictions.