what the hell was the point???????????????

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for what stupid reason would the argos choose to play any game in front of only 6000 fans :? :? :?

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This really deserved a thread?

MODS, take care of this trash.

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who the hell do you think you are to say what does and does not deserved a thread.

argos struggle for attendance all season long, yet choose to play a preseason game in varsity stadium giving up another 10,000 plus tickets, not to mention price difference. Where is the sense in that mr trashman?

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Well, it’s the pre-season but perhaps because.

A) Helps build an interest in the Varsity Blues, whose Football program has been a lame duck for years and living in the shadow of McMaster, Guelph and Western.

B) A chance to showcase CFL history, given that more Grey Cups have been played at Varsity then any other site.

C) Avoids TV Embarrassment/creates demand. The Argos literally gave away their pre-season tickets last year because attendance previous at the RC was so poor. This way, an intimate, passionate crowd gets to enjoy the pre-season and only the most passionate fans show up for it.

D) Is an interesting talking point to continue to market the team in the area. Leads to the water cooler effect.

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E) The game was brought over to the dramatically renovated Varsity Stadium due to the Blue Jays Schedule.
Note: All the above from Hammer are true however…

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Because they are tired of playing pre-season games in front of 8 to 10,000 in a 50,000 seat stadium. The experiment last year was to bus school kids but they didn’t get any revenue from that. The biggest insult was that there were no beer sales when they bused in the school kids and no beer sales this year at Varsity stadium.
But I will reserve judgement until they play their home opener, if they can’t draw 24k when the Ticats are in town they are in trouble.
A good sign was that the Mayor was there and he’s a big football guy and if anyone can pull together a deal for a new home for the Argos he can.

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Because they know it annoys you. :cowboy:

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:thup: :thup: :thup:
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well atleast they sold out... The Cats couldn't even sell out 13000?..... wtf

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I imagine almost all seats were sold as well.... probably no corporate give aways or comps... They probably did better then they would have in the dome

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I laughed

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I smiled

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Correct. some of these are some spins that are put onto the real problem is that the Argos just cannot draw for a pre season game. with Pre season games being able to be played on almost any day much would have to do with was it worth the cost to transform the stadium from baseball to football for 10K fans.
Last season was the schoolday game. this season Varsity Stadium tradition was the theme. neither of which are profitable ventures but at least drew some publicity to the Argos and promotion.
The CFL has gone to non CFL cities to bring the CFL where it is not in the past. This may be something that the CFL may do with the Argos.
For example bringing a game to an area where there is a CFL presence for the opposing team that could actually create a profit for the Argos as the host team.
For Example the Riders draw big for pre season home games so they would not want to move that one pre season home game that generates revenue of a regular season game.
Having the Argos be the host team to the Riders in Saskatoon could actually be a prductive pre season game. The Argos could actually make some revenue on what would probably be a sold out stadium on the U ofS campus with the ability to expand to 12K. second give the Riders fans from far away a game to them without discounting the Regina fans and the revenue that is made by the Riders pre season game in Regina. A win win for all.
Making sure that TSN actually put the game on TV would also be great as it is the Riders and should draw a nice TV audience.
Just my own personal thought and opinion. I do not have any basis or thread to back that this has ever been discussed. Just exercising my right of freedom of speech

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Years ago the Argos held a preseason game in London at TD Pricewater stadium. Made every ticket 40 bucks, brought in some extra seats, ( about 11,000) in total. Sold the game out, exposed the game more in Southern ONT and even turned a 200,000 profit. That is what the Argos should keep doing form preseason games

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exactly. The last second scheduled game at Varsity not a chance to turn a profit and not nearly ennough seats could be brought into that particular Venue. TD Waterhouse in London has a capacity of 8K and already has an expanded seating plan that brings the Capacity up to 16K.
Huskie in Saskatoon also goes from a regular 7 or 8K with an expansion plan already in place to bring it up to 12K for the Vanier a few years back.
game in London would be against Hamilton. Game in Sasktaoon vs the Riders.
I doubt the CFL or Laval would be teaming up on a venture but if they ever did againan easy 15K for a game vs Montreal could be happen.

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If were approached as a potential owner of the Toronto Argos I would demand in writing the other 7 owners must subsidize my team by “X” amount of dollars each year, for these 10 reasons because the current situation cannot be avoided:

  1. the fans hate watching football in the Rogers Centre – lousy view of the action

  2. the fans hate watching football in the Rogers Centre – lousy view of the action

  3. the fans hate watching football in the Rogers Centre – lousy view of the action

  4. the fans hate watching football in the Rogers Centre – lousy view of the action

  5. the fans hate watching football in the Rogers Centre – lousy view of the action

  6. the fans hate watching football in the Rogers Centre – lousy view of the action

  7. the fans hate watching football in the Rogers Centre – lousy view of the action

8 ) the fans hate watching football in the Rogers Centre – lousy view of the action

  1. the fans hate watching football in the Rogers Centre – lousy view of the action

  2. the fans hate watching football in the Rogers Centre – lousy view of the action

That pretty much sums up the root of all evil in Toronto.

As far as playing a game on the campus of University of Toronto, that would also have to be subsidized. If Toronto is such a key city in Canada for this league the other 7 owners better be able to cough up their profits and send them my way as long as the Rogers Centre is the playing field.

Folks this is what happens when engineers build a multiple use stadium for multiple sports.

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Now now, I wouldn’t go that far. There are plenty of other reasons to hate on the Rogers Centre.

  1. Lousy view of the action
  2. Morgue like quietness of the venue because it’s too large for a crowd of 30,000
  3. Overpriced tickets when ample seating is available
  4. Treated like second class tenant for both scheduling, signage and merchandising.
  5. The tenants are the Argos :wink:
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Just a shame that Toronto - a city with a metro area of 5 million - can't get 30,000- 35,000 consistently out to the Argo games. The "big city" folk look down on the team, I guess.

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Toronto is not a good sports town. NOTHING draws well except the Leafs once the novelty factor wears off.

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I like where I sit.