Visitors, Visitors, Visitors!

Last year: Calgary. This year: Edmonton. Next year: Vancouver! We'll be the visiting team again! Is the league losing its marbles? I know they want the hundredth anniversary game in Toronto but can anyone explain this idiocy in a way that actually makes sense?

Tentative 1 : il y a plus d'amateurs de football dans l'ouest, ce qui permet de meilleurs revenus, particulièrement en publicité et produits dérivés.

Tentative 2 : il va y avoir un gros battage pour la 100ième Coupe Grey à Toronto, alors on en donne 3 à l'ouest pour calmer les amateurs de ces provinces qui auraient voulu l'avoir.

Tentative 3 : on veut donner un gros show pour le stade rénové des Lions.

Tentative 4 : y fait frette en chien à Winnipeg, y a du vent à Hamilton, Toronto va l'avoir en 2012 et Montréal l'a eue en 2008.

Tentative 5 : le stade d'Iqaluit n'était pas disponible.

Rumor on Grey Cup site this weekend was:

2012 - T.O. (confirmed by league)
2013 - Ottawa (read below) or Montreal

2014 - Even if promised to Ottawa during the 2008 Grey Cup, Commish Cohon confirmed at the Grey Cup Tweetup event, that the Hunt group is working really hard to field a team in 2013 (depends on Frank-Clair stadium construction). If Ottawa could be ready for 2013 they could host 2013 and Montreal fills in the year before or after...

:lol:

Lets not get too short sited on this issue. Prior to the Grey Cup being held in the west for three consecutive years (I am including next year's in Vancouver in this this count). It was held for three consecutive years in the East (Winnipeg '06, Toronto '07, Montreal '08).

My problem is that if the league is not going to do a straight rotation of one year in the east and one year in the west, they should probably start looking at how they determine who gets the designation as home team.

Looking at the Rider board, there is a hint that the Saskatchewan Premier wants to bid for 2013. The ones that are pretty much in confirmed are Voncouver for 2011, Toronto for 2012 (100th GC) and Ottawa for 2014 as the welcome for the new team. So following the pattern (3E - 3W), 2013 ought to be in the East. However, I think that the Ticats would like to showcase their new stadium in 2015.

It will be fun if 2013 is opened for free bidding and Montreal and Saskatchewan go to a bidding war. On the other hand, I think the GC allocation to divisions is a bit lopsided. Of the last 20 Grey Cup games, 12 were in the West while 8 in the East.

De toute façon, à part le vestiaire, ça ne changera pas grand chose pour les Alouettes : même les partisans des autres équipes de l'Est encouragent les équipes de l'Ouest qui jouent contre eux.

Si les Alouettes jouent la Coupe Grey, ils sont toujours l'équipe contre qui la foule crie.

... sauf à Montréal, bien sûr!

Lestaff un détail que tu ignore, est que la majorité des fans de l'ouest étais pour les Als, il haïsse les Riders plus que tous.

Donc, ça faisait 10% du stade qui criait pour les Alouettes. :lol:

J'exagère... à peine?

Mais la plupart des fans de l'ouest étaient des fans des Riders...

I agree that they need to do a rotation on who is the designated home team if they are going to be held in the same division in consecutive years. It made this grey cup kind of boring being in the same province with the same teams wearing the exact same jerseys. However, they had been doing a rotation up until 2008, but in a year where the west would have been the home team, the Alouettes were the hosting team and thus, were given their own locker rooms. I would think (depsite what Cohon said) that since the East was given two years in a row, the west was given two years in a row to off-shoot the difference.

But hey, can't complain, right? In the past ten years, the team wearing the white jersey has has won nine times. NINE! You guys should hope they stick to the East as the visitors. :wink:

As reciently as 2005 it was decided by a coin toss

[url=http://www.cfl.ca/article/home__visiting_team_designations_announced]http://www.cfl.ca/article/home__visitin ... _announced[/url]
Decided in an official coin toss, Edmonton will take the field on Sunday, November 27th as the visiting team and Montreal will enter the match-up as the home team. The Grey Cup host stadium is deemed a neutral site.
The host stadium cannot be considered neutral if home team is awarded based on location

I would suggest returning to the coin toss except if host city is playing.
In other words, If BC plays in the cup next year they are home team, if not, heads or tails

L'histoire du vestiaire est un élément mineur dans cette controverse.

Ce qui choque, c'est que la ligue a réservé pour les Alouettes un hôtel qui n'avait pas les facilités qui convenaient à une équipe de football professionnel, a permis que des supporteurs de l'équipe adverse puissent loger sur le même étage que l'équipe, a forcé les Alouettes à s'entraîner loin de leur hôtel, leur faisant perdre ainsi du temps de préparation.

Côté vestiaire, la ligue devrait imposer aux équipes que la grandeur du vestiaire des visiteurs ne soit pas moins de 90% de celle de l'équipe locale, et comporte le même nombre de douches et autres équipements. Une règle simple qui ferait que le vestiaire n'est pas un facteur déterminant sur la partie. Après tout, la partie se joue sur le terrain avant tout.

Exactly. And if you notice, after the Grey Cup, Jamel Richardson said something to the effect of, "If we make it to the Grey Cup again, put us in another crappy hotel so we can rise to the occasion." Jamel's bravado notwithstanding, it would seem from his comments that Proulx and Boulay weren't the only players who thought the hotel was subpar.

My gut feeling is that the whole team, including the coaches, were upset with the hotel accommodations, but that only Proulx and Boulay had the courage to openly discuss it in the media. Again, my beef here isn't as an Als fan, but as a CFL fan. I don't want to see any team treated like this in future Grey Cups. It's bad for the CFL's image as a pro league where things are done by the book.

If you listen to the comish.
He downplayed the favoritism aspect but not the Hotel. He claimed that it was all that was available.
That tells me that the Hotel was inferiour.
he also admitted that Hot baths and Cold baths were sent over to the hotel.
That means that they didnt have the equipement available that they needed

I am genuinely confused by the "That is all that was available" comment. The league announced the location of this years Grey Cup just after the 2008 Grey Cup. That gave them the better part of two years to get these hotels booked. There is no possible way that anyone can make me believe that the Westin was sold for this event 2 years ago. The League knows that 2 teams are showing up for this game there shouldn't really be much to co-ordinate.

Lets hope they are working on Hotels for Toronto already.

Je crois qu'ils ont déjà réservé le motel Super 8 pour l'événement.