Even though Hamilton lost in what appeared to be a blow-out, if you look at the stats the Ticats actually outplayed the Argos in yesterday’s game. If they had started Williams instead of Chang, Hamilton would have cruised to an easy win. Wait until Printers start and you have Williams as the back up! Here are the surprising stats:
First Downs 23 17
Yards Rushing 173 69
Yards passing 181 305
Total offence 344 374
Team losses 10 12
Net offence 344 374
Passes made-tried 17-32 16-28
Return yards 361 203
Intercepts yards by 1-58 4-140
Fumbles-lost 1-0 0-0
Sacks by 0 1
Punts-average 5-41.6 3-43.3
Penalties-yards 6-53 3-30
Time of Possession 35:23 24:37
Toronto scored 2 touch downs off of easy interceptions. If you take the points away, you got a much closer game.
The Argos seems to think they’re back to being a good team, but I wouldn’t be so confident if I were them.
Realistically, the Argos didn’t win yesterday, they were given the victory by Timmy Chang.
I dont see the cats out playing the argos with those stats.
They only lead in 4 of 12catagories and a few of them dont mean anything
Time of possition
All three of those look good on paper but dont mean much over all
What are you talking about? You are not looking closely enough.
While what you say is technically true. Hamilton won 4 categories significantly (1st downs, yards rushing, return yards and time of possesion) while Toronto only won 2 categories significantly (yards passing and intercepts by). All other stats were basically even.
Yes 1st downs are important because it indicates that your team is moving the ball effectively.
Return yards are important because it means that you are starting drives with good field position.
Time of possesion is very important because it tells you which team was controlling most of the play. Also if you are on the short end of this stat, then your defence is on the field too much which usually ends up meaning a loss. Toronto's defence was on the field almost 11 minutes longer than Hamilton's. Yes, that is significant.
Ok, Here is why I don't agree.
I can start on my own 35 yard line, 3 25 yard passes will get me into the end-zone but I will be credited with 2 first downs. Actually you can throw a 109 yard pass and run for a TD and not get credited with a first down.
You start at the same place and throw 10 yard passes and score you will have 7 first downs for the same result.
If I am scoring TD's, I am kicking off
If are not scoring you end up punting. Generally kick offs returns generate more yardage than punts.
Time of possession.
How many times do you see an opening drive for a TD where they chew up a good 5 minutes of the clock?
The same drive after the 3 minutes warning can be done in as little as 30 seconds or so.
You are trying to create scenarios to prove your point. And yes, I can agree that all of those things you said can happen. However, you have to admit that when a team leads significantly in those 4 categories I mentioned that 90% of the time they win the game. That's it. You can't honestly deny that. You would be lying to yourself or doing it so as not to admit you are wrong.
The reason why Toronto won was because of their dominance in the category of "intercepts by". Without that, they probably lose. If Williams had started, they wouldn't have won that category.
Do you even follow football? You can't just look at the stats and go "ok we should've won because we had more 1st downs". Anyone watching that game would conclude it was a convincing win for the ARRRRGOOOS!
Yes, I follow football. No, I'm not saying that Toronto didn't deserve to win that game. All I am saying is that it was not a convincing win. If I were an Argo fan I would be very worried about the way the last half of the game went.
Toronto scored two cheap touchdowns on easy interceptions by an ineffective Timmy Chang. If Williams had started this likely would not have happened. Take that away, the score is very close.
Furthermore, if you watched the game you would have noticed that Hamilton was coming back strong once Williams entered the game during the first half of the 3rd quarter. The ticats dominated the last half of the 3rd quarter and all of the 4th. If there was such a thing as a 5th quarter, I guarantee Hamilton would have won the game.
You can disagree with me, but I think if you really thought about you would agree.
And as for you saying that anyone watching the game would agree that it was a convincing win for Toronto I have to also disagree. The only people who have said that to me are Argo fans who didn't even watch the game, but saw the highlights on tv.
Everyone that I know who actually watched the game, agree with what I have said.
I think the only important category is actual points scored. At the end of the day, that determines who was the most effective (either by the winning team playing the best, or by them simply taking advantage of the other team's problems). I'm pretty certain that TO won that category....
Exactly. Williams has no starts, you are talking about an unproven rookie QB who yes has looked good when he's played, but he hasn't done anything in this league in terms of a full game performance. You are also igonoring the fact that Hamilton has the worst defence in the league and it shows every game.