What a game in Moncton! Ugly....but a win. Unfortunately with a 6 win and a 6 loss team it is screwing up my usually healthy diet which I realized after reading this article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... efeat.html . Unfortunately my favourite team in the NFL is the Cleveland Browns. Oskee wee wee!!
.....although I did have a couple of extra glasses of wine.
Hey Zorro, stick with the Cats. We won't trade our best running back for a bag of Doritos, like the hapless Brownies did. :lol:
Pat Lynch(the old guy)
Some times getting rid of the bad apple is the best thing that one can do for team chemistry. And just think they get a pick in the first round. Browns are on the way back.
No, just a future Hall of Fame receiver (cough Arland Bruce cough).
Our team has not lost a step since trading Bruce … I don’t know of too many people agonizing over that move.
Maybe not a step, but they have lost a ton of games.
And in case you're wondering or forgot, the Cats got a 2012 third-round pick for Bruce and used that pick on Michael Atkinson (who has yet to play a game and whose career is in jeopardy because of his knee). The trade ranks as one of the worst in team history.
Team lost a player, an expensive one at that, who didn't want to be here anymore . Not sure where HAM loses out here .
I'm going to start by asking how you know Bruce didn't want to be here anymore? Not what you may have heard, but what facts do you have to support your statement?
And how Hamilton lost is that they literally got nothing for him. Not figuratively nothing, literally nothing. They traded him for a draft pick that is very likely never to play for the team. If they would have got something, anything, then it's just a bad trade; but they got absolutely nothing, so it's a terrible trade.
It's bad ... But the one that still burns me is ... You know what I'm gonna say ... Chris Thompson for Maurice Mann ... Is the shower door bandit still even with the Argos? ('Cause if you follow it thru ... they trade Thompson for Mann then Mann for Webb ... When they coulda just kept Thompson!)
When you wear a shirt to practice with a strange name on the back - which purposely begs media questions- and call it your slave name needlessly and selfishly inflaming a personal beef in how you're being used by the team you've declared you're not happy and want out.
I liked Bruce, he was good, but he lives and plays in his own universe which has good and bad results.
In the end you want players on your team who want to be here , not sulkers, malcontents. Call it whatever you want, Austin calls it team "culture".
Hard to imagine its the same atmosphere here now as then that would let Bruce think he could pull that stunt.
Before Blogskeeweewee pipes in ... cause he'll say it better than me ... environments and situations change greatly. I imagine Coach Austin would be happy to have AB3 on the team because he respects him as a professional and Arland would respect what Austin is trying to do here and would lead by example.
I have no problem with RunaKoreth/AB3 ... He does his job ... Is a true pro in preparation ... And says it like it is when it needs to be said.
Bruce can play on any team for any coach Austin included- until he thinks he's not being used right then everything changes.
You may not be wrong there.
I hated that trade when it happened perhaps more than any other trade. That may be the stupidest move the team made under Obie. Made no sense at the time and makes no sense in retrospect. At least with the Bruce trade, I understand the reasoning in retrospect: trade a highly paid vet because you have youngsters, like Chris Williams, stepping up. But Mann? The team had receivers and had no need for another one, and especially didn't need one so badly that they dealt their best defensive back for him. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
And I should say that I'm not mad that they traded Bruce. Vets get traded and his days as the go-to guy, which he was being paid as, were starting to dwindle. My beef with the deal is what they got for him. I don't value draft picks, especially mid-to-late round ones, as highly as a lot of other people do. I get that having good Canadian talent is a key in the CFL, but we don't have time to name all the third-round picks and beyond that never stepped on the field. Trading a still-useful Bruce for a third-round pick? No, no, no. It's the compensation, not the player traded, that always stuck in my craw. That's why I hated, and still hate, the trade.
Our team has not lost a step since trading Bruce … I don’t know of too many people agonizing over that move.
[b]Maybe not a step, but they have lost a ton of games.
And in case you’re wondering or forgot, the Cats got a 2012 third-round pick for Bruce and used that pick on Michael Atkinson (who has yet to play a game and whose career is in jeopardy because of his knee). The trade ranks as one of the worst in team history.
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Maybe a 3rd round pick was the best offer to be had at the time … Obie was not going to trade him to an Eastern Division team … he is no longer in BC and I don’t believe he is making an impact in Montreal … his best days are behind him … saying that he was a welcome addition when he arrived and did contribute during the time he was here.
Bruce does however march to his own drummer.
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Maybe a 3rd round pick was the best offer to be had at the time ... Obie was not going to trade him to an Eastern Division team ... he is no longer in BC and I don't believe he is making an impact in Montreal ... his best days are behind him ... saying that he was a welcome addition when he arrived and did contribute during the time he was here.
Bruce does however march to his own drummer.
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Then you don't trade him. There was no pressing need to trade Bruce - aside from rumours, never confirmed or corroborated, that he was acting up - so if the offer was so little, you keep him. And the second Bruce showed up in BC, the Lions took off. Would that had happened without him? Maybe, but we'll never know. What we do know is that an 0-5 team turned things around pretty quickly and went on to win the Grey Cup. Bruce was especially key in the Grey Cup - he could have been the game's MVP - and while he's no longer lighting things up, he's no longer a No. 1 option. Why he couldn't slide into a complimentary role in Hamilton? But I think I've exhausted this topic. It has been over two years since he left, so I probably shouldn't have even brought it up. Still kinda bugs me, though.