The sportsnet.ca forum (bad stuff)

Besides there are to many warners over on that site! You are the best site for CFL football! Just like one big happy family here! Right Pappa! :lol:

Agreed totally, but some decent fantasy/pick the winner games with some pretty sweet prize pools and Canadian eligibility (hello Bowmans.com) will entice some interest in the NFL for me.

Oh I have interest in the NFL too.. I like watching what the ex-CFL players are up to. Garcia's looking good in Eagle's green, Lumsden may not have a job, Boerigter is off to Indy to take passes from the best QB in the world.. the list goes on.. but when guys like playmaker come here and try to convince me it's superior in every way.. it really makes me want to stop watching it altogether.

They had the EPSN report from Indy on the fan960 and he said Boerigter will be gone early. But you never know!

sounds like fun! but since I live in the US, I can't join unless I lie a little.

No need for people to go on any forum and start a bashing thread, CFL to NFL or vice versa. Two different leagues, same overall game but different leagues. But if a thread is started somewhere on whatever topic, I don't have a problem responding to a posters comments and going after them. And I always watch for people bashing the CFL, waiting to pounce on them. But they are getting better at the NFL forum site on Sportsnet, the "NFL only counts" posters know that I'm a comin' if they bash the CFL there. It's fun though, man I love watching "NFL only counts" fans get so defensive, it's a real hoot.

ArgosLions, I'm EarlGrey on Sportsnet, just responded to you on the NFL forum site there. For hockey, you opened yourself up big time and exposed your biggest vulnerability - you're a Leafs fan. An easy target! :wink:

I’ve met a lot of people who will take great pride in butting in to conversations about the CFL by informing that THEY are NFL fans and that the CFL is junk. From my experience those people also suffer from terminal cases of self-righteousness and are delusional. They also tend to support everything from south of the border including all political, religious, and ethical views featured on FOXnews.

There are idiots everywhere and they are no fewer among football fans. Putting down what someone else likes gives some people a sense of superiority and confidence that they can’t get out of their own pointless little lives.

Don’t waste time arguing with these people. You will have the same luck as trying to argue with a crazy person. I generally inform them that several organizations offer 12-step programs for their condition, and then walk away.

Well said 2Much2Soon (like that name BTW). I have found I dissociate myself with people who go way overboard with CFL bashing and are obviously people with low self esteem. I don't mind people who can say they prefer the NFL over the CFL because of this or that, but the real bashers, well, I no longer have these people as friends. And the ones that can actually use their brains a bit and converse, I find that after speaking with them, they actually like the CFL more than they thought and most admit they at least watch some games on TV and are entertained.

Thanks for the compliment Earl. I wanted my handle to be TooManyChromosomes, but that's over 15 letters.

i hold a slightly different perspective. i watch nfl not for the exciting football, although occasionally i see a good game there... not for the better game, certainly not... but as a farm league for my beloved cfl. yes i know the analogy does not work quite right because of the huge money down south and their capability of stealing some of our good players. i realize that however the leagues are so different that many nfl players will never be cfl players just as most cfl players will never be nfl players--with some notable exceptions. the beauty of the nfl is that it is a huge league that develops a lot of players and some of these players are suited to our league very well. when coaches realize these players do not suit their game they become available to us and do not require as much training to become solid stars as someone fresh out of school. if money was even across the border then they truly would be our farm league but alas that is not going to happen for some time and we need to accept that imbalance and work with it. i do enjoy watching ex cflers play down there, esp when they dominate but i prefer when i can grab a developed player from our farm teams to the south (esp green bay, jets, cinci etc.) to improve our game.

I made an analogy recently that watching sports on TV is like internet porn - it may have its place, but it can never be as fulfilling as the real thing. The thing I like about the CFL is that I live close enough to attend games, and it doesn't bankrupt me to do so. To me there's no substitute for the presence of other humans.

Perhaps Canadians who are content to spend their whole lives worshipping a foreign football league without ever attending games in person, are the same folks whose sex life consists exclusively of a computer with a web connection. They think they're a part of something, but they're really not.

Extremely well said. :thup:

As an American who is more than content watching the CFL, all I can say is Ouch!

ExPat wrote:

I made an analogy recently that watching sports on TV is like internet porn - it may have its place, but it can never be as fulfilling as the real thing. The thing I like about the CFL is that I live close enough to attend games, and it doesn't bankrupt me to do so. To me there's no substitute for the presence of other humans.

Perhaps Canadians who are content to spend their whole lives worshipping a foreign football league without ever attending games in person, are the same folks whose sex life consists exclusively of a computer with a web connection. They think they're a part of something, but they're really not.


I know, lots of "quotes of the year" but that is priceless ExPat, I'd pay to have said that. Nice.

I didn't mean you ...

I really like blackdale's perspective.... never thought of it that way, and although I'm sure people could argue some of the points, I'm going to watch their games from that perspective, see how it works for me.

I still watch the games because although I like our rules better, it's still football and therefore better than most other sports on tv, especially at that time of day.

the thing with looking at the nfl game as a farm league is that you don't just look at stats. they are useless for this purpose. for a player to have god stats in that league they need to be suited for that league. it is the 3rd 4th 5th receivers that are regularly overlooked down there, maybe slightly undersized or slow but with good hands and intelligence. or the small rb that is a scatback, the qb that can by time with his legs etc. defensively can be even more difficult at times to assess. the lineman must be faster and usually too small to start consistently down there, same with lbs. the secondary need to be able to cover space quickly as our field has a lot of it. they need to be the non prototypical nfl players. don't bother looking at the prototypicals who sit on the bench all the time. they are no good. they tend to be the types that even if they were good down there wouldn't fit our game. that is why the mike quinns will never make competent players up here. not a great example but you get the point. and one more thing that some people will disapprove of. look at the players with a injury or personal problems... drugs, alcohol etc. but not all of them. they still need to be the non prototypical player and they need to be committed to overcoming their issues. but if they are the cfl style player with enough skill to start in the nfl but struggled in some area enough to get dropped. they can be a star up here if they clean up there act. i believe in giving people chances to change and so have no problem allowing people with a bad history to play in our league. if they continue to screw up let them go.

Good take guys, NFL as a farm league, never thought of it that way but it is true for sure. A feeder league if you will in some cases.

i think approach is how we should view nflE and arena ball as well but arena ball is so different it is tough and trying to find a nflE game on the tube is a bit of a challenge.

I faintly remember FOX showing one NFL Europe game a week during the past season, but the aspects of watching "NFL Developmental Talent" prove to be about as exciting as watching world yachting coverage, at least in my opinion.