Spies-Lions game thread (Aug. 21. 10:30 p.m. ET, TSN)

oski-oui-oui · August 21, 2009, 1:26pm

Will the Lions restore their roar? Will the Spies rebound after their debacle against the Als?

How many Field Turf pellets can Bish dislodge with his laserdivots tonight?

Screams!

Dreams!

It's game two of a bye week doubleheader!

Oski Wee Wee,

Russ

oski-oui-oui · August 21, 2009, 3:15pm

TSN.ca's preview of the game:

[url]http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=288346[/url]

Oski Wee Wee,

Russ

LB74 · August 21, 2009, 8:52pm

man, where did you get that quote in your signature? LMAO!!!

I completely fail to see why people think mike bishop is such and incredible, and under-rated QB that never 'got a fair chance'...

I mean damn... the emphasis on his skill and achievements throughout his career has been on his running, and not his throwing.

it's true! do a google seach on Mike Bishop, and click on the wiki link.

the guy has no mind for football, hell, he'd even look to run befor throw in the AFL of all places, where you have a maximum 3 receivers... 3!!!!

and people think it so great he rolls out of the pocket, he does it so he only has to read from one hash mark to the sideline, and forget the other 2/3rds of the field.

anyway, who am i to say, the guy has played at least 1 more pro-game than i ever have! lol

oski-oui-oui · August 21, 2009, 8:57pm

That’s me on a roll in a game thread on here. More to come tonight!

Oski Wee Wee,

Russ

oski-oui-oui · August 22, 2009, 2:24am

BOO!

HalfTheDistance · August 22, 2009, 2:26am

Hopefully I can last the "full" distance for this game.... was up at 5:00am for work this AM

oski-oui-oui · August 22, 2009, 2:27am

with September 1 looming...is this Bish's last SPY game...or will we have WEEK AFTER WEEK of DIVOTPALOOZA?!

:D :D :D

oski-oui-oui · August 22, 2009, 2:28am

Well, laughter is a good sedative! LOL

HalfTheDistance · August 22, 2009, 2:29am

Tough call Russ… i think he stays the duration… Kelly will NEVER admit to TWO mistakes!!

BobYoungFan · August 22, 2009, 2:30am

Well, by halftime, BC could have 20 point lead. And unlike the Ticats, WPG would be unlikely to come back from that.

Now, will Kelly want Bishop to take pay cuts after this one? If he had to take a pay cut for every bad pass he threw…

How many picks will Bishop throw tonight? I’ll go with three. A hat trick seems like a safe bet.

oski-oui-oui · August 22, 2009, 2:31am

Bish is hereby christened "JJ2" as the natural successor to Jimmy Jones.

oski-oui-oui · August 22, 2009, 2:32am

Barron Miles is gooooooooooood. LOL

oski-oui-oui · August 22, 2009, 2:38am

"oski-oui-oui":

"paulpearson":

HORSE HOCKEY!!! For some reason the CFL pundits do not like Bishop, people like this last poster swallow it hook, line and sinker. They have demonized Michael Bishop as not being very bright etc, all totally false. He is a very smart QB that has been in every type of offense, from the very basic to the complex run and shoot. Michael really came in to his own during the 2007 season when he won the starting job from Damen Allen. Bish was resposible for all 11 wins that year. He was injured for the remainder of the games. Argos never won a game in 2007 when Bishop was not at QB, when he went in the game every phase of the team improved, from defence to special teams.

When Bish was airlifted in to Sask last year, he started with only 1 and a half days prep, they won the game. Bishop was named offensive player of the week twice with the Riders in 2008.

As for asking the Sask guys…Well some/most of the Sask fans on line gave no credit to Bishop when he won a game, and blamed him totally for every loss.

He has been (that particular word combo may come back later) “in every type of offense, from the very basic to the complex run and shoot” BECAUSE HE’S BOUNCED AROUND EVERY TYPE OF FOOTBALL EXCEPT NOT BEING ABLE TO DISLODGE MARTY YORK AS A FLAG FOOTBALL QB AT THE REC LEVEL.

Let’s review a bit and I mean a bit:

Finished second to Ricky Williams in Heisman voting in 1998. Drafted by the Patriots in 1999. Released in 2001. Three completions in nine attempts over two years. Bill Belichick was FLOORED by his capacity to stand by the sideline and process the game as a young QB, learning at the feet of the master, Drew Bledsoe. << You can cut-and-paste that if you’d like, I love a fairy tale like most people.

Reality: Belichick moved Tom Brady up the depth chart because Tom put the time in behind Bledsoe to learn about NFL defences, key recognition, etc. Bishop? Not so much.

Cue Globetrotters music:

1999-2000 New England Patriots
2001 Frankfurt Galaxy
2004-2005 Grand Rapids Rampage
2006 Chicago Rush
2007 Kansas City Brigade
2007 Grand Rapids Rampage
2002-2008 Toronto Argonauts
2008 Saskatchewan Roughriders
2009 Corpus Christi Hammerheads

I could regale you with his UNBELIEVABLE stardom playing arena football, but the Globetrotter music in my head is ringing. Corpus Christi Hammerheads have a FIND, I must say.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bishop_(gridiron_football)

Henry Burris is an elite quarterback in the CFL because he worked his tail off at his craft and has done much to address his Achilles heel: ball security. Fumblelitis it’s called in other parts. His TD-INT ratio in the CFL is 177-106 between 1998 and 2008 during the regular season if you would like to compare with Bish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Burris

It’s good to compare the two because Hank has bounced around, even coming back from a serious knee injury and is, where he is, Grey Cup ring in tow. His career started in 1998, so it’s roughly the same duration. He’s also been in the NFL and NFL Europe, like Bishop.

Why is he where he is in his career and Bishop is in Corpus Christi?

Burris makes better decisions, can read defences better, and is more accurate (particularly when on the run) than Bishop. That’s just my layman assessment and I think it’s backed up by most CFL talent evaluators and a mountain of tape.

He is a fighter. Feel free to read what John Hufnagel has had to say about his quarterback and his work ethic.

He studies hard in the film room. I could end my post there, but I’ll type a bit more. LOL

Burris has his moments. In the main though, his bad decisions are spur or the moment and reactive as they are for any successful QB with staying power.

Bishop? What I stated in my earlier post. Ultimately, when one has played a decade of professional football, you are what you are. Bishop is a lock-on-the-receiver forcer of the ball into tight coverage. The question is not if you will be burned with him, it’s when. This works in the Arena Leagues, it’s why Billy Dicken has had a career on carpeted ice level. Outdoor football, well, unless one brings something to the table other than a laser arm, you wind up as Jimmy Jones, as Jeff George, as Ryan Leaf to name a very few.

Can Bishop turn it around? Opportunity can knock because he’s won enough Players of Week for Weeks 6-11 in CFL seasons, I suppose. However, you have to bring more to the table to be a McManus, an Allen, a Burris, a Dickenson. You cannot be a double agent in big games through reckless disregard for the stakes and consistently forcing the ball when it simply ain’t there against prepped defences.

Oski Wee Wee,

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I wrote that on July 26. I stand by EVERY word.

Bugsy · August 22, 2009, 2:41am

When does Kelly take a pay cut.

oski-oui-oui · August 22, 2009, 2:42am

JJ2 with the sack avoidance.

BobYoungFan · August 22, 2009, 2:43am

2 and out for WPG.

J. Jackson picks up where he left off last week, nice pass for FD.

jdc1185 · August 22, 2009, 2:44am

It’s a non issue - handled internally. Next question?

HalfTheDistance · August 22, 2009, 2:46am

WHAT a catch!!!

oski-oui-oui · August 22, 2009, 2:46am

BEAUTIFUL CATCH BY ARCENAUX!

BobYoungFan · August 22, 2009, 2:46am

Wow! Great deep pass to Arceneaux for TD. One-handed catch!