Tonight in the Stamps vs Als game, on the first Edwards fumble, the ball is loose and the whistle blows then Calgary recovers it. How can possession be given to Calgary? Because they recovered the ball after the whistle was blown?
Play should have been stopped and Als should have kept the ball because you can't know who would have recovered the fumble.
That's why in the NFL when the play was blown dead it can't be challenged, the call makes no sense.
Sorry, but the whistle was blown after the ball came lose so Calgary was allowed to recover it.
In the NFL the refs don't blow the whistle until the play is actually dead.. so it's not an issue.
Actually, in the NFL, if a player is called down by contact and the whistle blows, it is non-reviewable. Doesn't matter when the ball comes out, when the whistle goes, as long as the whistle goes to call him down, it is non-reviewable.
The ball was loose, no one had possession and the whistle was blown. The ball therefore goes to th eteam that last had possession which was Montreal.
Yeah, but they don’t blow the whistle when the player isn’t down and/or the ball came loose prior to the player being down. That’s the difference. The CFL refs blow the whistle whenever they get confused (all the time).
Yeah exactly and the reason it’s like that is because the play is dead and you can’t know what would have happened because the whistle was blwon and play is dead.
CFL rule makes no sense.
NFL refs did at the beginning but then were told if they’re not 100% the player was down then let the play go and you can see what relaly happens and reverse it after. Ref made a mistake by blowing the whistle but Lambert had a decent shot at recovering it if the whistle hadn’t been blown.
maybe red&white and his little straw hat actually blew the whistle, he said he was bringing it to the game tonight.
hahahahhaa... yeah, taking lessons from Winnipeg fans. :lol:
I agree it was the wrong call Philippe…but stuff like that happens tonight Mtl did not get any breaks…maybe we will in the playoffs this year…No need to cry over spilled milk, the wrong call was clearly made…but maybe Lambert gets the ball…maybe Calgary runs in for a TD…it is clear and simple no breaks tonight, and it was Calgary’s night
The call went in Montreal's favour anyways. There was, contrary to previous statements, NO chance for any Alouette to recover that fumble, as Coe was right on top of the ball as soon as it hit the turf; furthermore, he had daylight in front of him.
If the ref hadn't blown the play dead, it's a Stampeder touchdown.
Edwards' back was to the ref when the ball got stripped, so the ref never saw the ball come loose. All he saw was Edwards go down at the bottom of a pile. From that ref's point of view the play is over and he blew the whistle. An NFL ref in the same position would have made the same call. The thing about the refs letting the play continue applies to when they see the ball come out and aren't sure whether or not the runner's knee was down.
Yeah you’re right, I’m not blaming the loss on this. Tonight I saw the Als of 2005 which friustrated me, lots of yards but stupid mistakes that cost the game.
I just find it frustrating that every game refs make stupid calls on both sides.
BTW, for the record, I am discussing the rule and it's application, I am not complaining about what happened in the game tonight.
I think Lambert had a chance to recover it but that’s not really my point.
My point is that awarding the ball to the team that recovered it after the whistle was blown makes no sense.
Phillippe, the refs are only human and will always make mistakes, sometimes they benefit you, sometimes they don't. I actually found tonight's game to be one of the better reffed games this year. I also don't think the Als played that bad. Calvillo had a big night, the D stopped the leading rusher in the league, and it took a superb effort from Burris to get the Calgary offence moving.
Edwards might be a big guy but he's not a barn. The ref should have, and probably did, see the ball pop loose, hence why afterwards they ruled it a fumble with a Calgary recovery, because they knew it was loose prior to him being down.. as dogbert said, you should call this moot, because realistically, if they don't blow the whistle for no reason, this is a Calgary TD.
I don't care if it would have been a Calgary TD. Judgement calls that are missed on the fly I totally understand.
Not following the rules (or a stupid rule) I don't forgive.
Had the ref seen the ball pop loose he would never have blown the whistle, because Edwards was still standing up when the ball came loose. He blew it when Edwards hit the ground, clearly indicating that he didn't see the ball pop loose. And while I do agree that Calgary would have recovered the ball regardless, all the Alouettes stopped moving on the whistle, and no one started going after the Calgary player until a few seconds after he started running, so to say it would have absolutely been a TD is stretching it.