Security at football games

This Officer was completely justified. He was in a hostile environment and used his best judgment and assessment of the situation at hand and acted accordingly. Are you making this assumption of yours on your obviously vast knowledge of police protocol?

... I think not.

Actually it goes both ways... Because he was wearing a green jacket, he was treated unfairly and did nothing wrong.
*swish*

if the cop disobeyed orderstraining, he should be reprimanded, but the criminal still deserved it.

Was that Sambo being escorted out in the begining of the clip. I think the second guy thought the cop had a Banjo hanging from his belt , you can clearly see the excitment in his eyes as he went for it .

I haven't read all the comments yet but, in reading a couple Riders posts, I feel like screaming.

For crying out loud...these situations can quickly turn ugly/riot like. The cops don't have time to pussy foot around a bunch of drunk hooligans who are out of line. They handled things exactly as they should've - swiftly and seriously.

Usually security's involved before the cops even intervene so I'm quite sure that this video is the tail end of some fighting/disruptive behavior.

By the time the cops arrive, there's no room for negotiation - just get your ass up and out.

And, for those who don't comply - they'll help with that.

I'm totally on the police's side...when my kids and I are at a game we feel more secure when police swoop in and quickly remove trouble makers.

Job well done.

woah! thats a tough stance on crime! Would probably make people think twice before committing a crime i guess.
Even though I dont agree with you and others on this issue, I respect your opinions, just as I would hope others respect mine even if they dont agree with me.

I guess Ill leave it at that and turn my attention to the games coming up this weekend, should be some good ones.

The Cop had clearly lost control of his emotions , probably a Rookie ,I would have been [mad] at him and would have been landing some haymakers of my own at this cop if he would have landed on any of my Kids , he totally showed a lack of discipline and inexperiance at crowd control and elevated the situation putting his other members at risk.
What he should have done was remove the first person from the scene and secured him in another area , his first mistake was letting go of him this is a huge error on his part and is part of police training 101 this put other members at risk . he had identified the second guy already and could have instructed the other member to keep a visual on him . then went back for him later.
the next big mistake was leaving his feet to Tackle this Guy this is where you lose control of your body giving the other guy a big advantage, this also puts the other Fans at risk for serious injury as well as himself. Whatever the incident that took place the Cop made some big mistakes I bet they let these guys go and hope know one sees this Video.

I LOVE IT! THANKS ZBEST.

This is why Calgary was right to run up the score. Every home game against the Riders this stuff happens along with fights with Calgary fans, puking all over the stadium, and streaking.

The Riders fans were just lucky they weren't tasered and deserved everything they got. Kudos for Huff for not letting up.

you are off topic

AS far as the security goes… I would like to see anyone of the naysayers on this forum wear a badge and go sit in the Riders section of a Stamps game and deal with those punks. I don’t think they did anything wrong and i don’t think they over reacted. Cops are people and if you treat them poorly expect to pay the consequences.

Its pretty easy to sit here in the safety of your home with the aid of a video to view over and over and poo poo someone.

I like facts, here are some

  1. If Police are busy, do not disturb. Do not high 5 em, do not try and help some idiot who they are dragging out, do not touch them.
  2. Dont be a criminal
  3. If you dont want a beating, note facts 1 & 2
  4. To protect the people the police need to react fast and with authority. In a volatile situation a cop feels someones hand on them regardless of why they do not have the time to determine why the hand is there. The cop has to assume the worst and act, in this case punching out a bozo who didnt heed fact #1. Its better to go head over heals in the stands than risk someone getting your gun. If you cant figure that out im glad you are not a cop.
  5. Police have a very difficult, stressful and often thankless job.

Its simple, dont mess with cops and you wont catch a beating. Guess what, cops have never smacked me around. Why you ask? Maybe because Im not a criminal and I dont interfere with them doing a highly stressful and often very dangerous job. Its common sense to give the cops room. Im tired of these bleeding heart sissies crying about police brutality. Sure police can go over the line but when you consider how many have compared to how many there are its a pretty bloody small number.

DONT TOUCH COPS AT WORK. I would have punched him, maced and tazed him and then sicked a dog on him for being an idiot.

And this from a guy who condones Murphy's actions.
You know what? Cops have a tough enough job without guys like you muddying the waters. You aren't interested in facts. You're entire rant on the Murphy case proves that. At least you are consistent.Consistently wrong that is.I find it so hilariously inconsistent of you to seek the grey area in the Murphy case, but assume everything is 100% black and white here. we have no idea based on that video how things progressed to that situation. And no question the cop is entitled to react here. But it seems credible to suggest that the cop in this situation screwed up. Or things never reach the level of violence they do. He makes a few mistakes on camera, let alone what may or may not have transpired before hand. I'm pretty damned sure I saw that cop poke the Rider fan in the eye. So after that, it is all bets off.....

Just wondering if you have ever been to a Rider-Stamps game at McMahon? I have, and I suspect you have little to no idea what you are talking about. No surprise there....

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Just wondering if you have ever been to a Rider-Stamps game at McMahon? I have, and I suspect you have little to no idea what you are talking about. No surprise there....
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I went to the U of Calgary and then lived right across from the stadium for 5 years and yes, did attend about 15 Stamps - Riders games. I even had a media pass one year from a friend and got to walk field level when Danny was the Riders coach.

Everytime its the same thing in the northwest corner. A bunch of drunk Riders fans, puking on each other, picking fights, wearing watermelons on their heads, streaking the field (most times), and yelling obscenities all game long. I now have children and would never take them to the NW corner during a Riders game. Its disgusting. Human beings at their worst and I say good on the cops for cleaning the section up. Don't think for a minute those fans were angels and the cops were just using undo force because that would be the biggest joke ever in professional sports viewing.

How about you Arius? Ever left the farm to the big city ?

you are still off topic......

...for what it is worth, after reveiwing the YouTube tape the Calgary Police, the Calgary Police Union and the Stampeder Organization have no issue with the actions of the officer and say he acted in accordance with his training under the circumstances....

[url=http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=b77dc0bc-61c7-4cc4-961b-dcd66fcc71e8]http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/new ... d66fcc71e8[/url]

Yes they are real people. But we spend our tax paying money to train these people. They get paid and trained to deal with these situation. Of course they are real people but thats no excuse. If cops get tretaed poorly I expect them to still protect and serve. Not to payback the citizen for mistreatment. Courts are for punishment.

It is very true you have no right interfering with them while they make an arrest. It is just plain common sense. No one on this site can tell me that you would put your hand on a cop while making an arrest in a volitile situation. If you say you would then really you have no brains or common sense. The problem could have been less had the moron that was asked to leave followed police orders instead he resisted and now is charged. Who is the dumb one here? Then to add stupidity a guy figures he can try and negotiate in his intoxicated wisdom by grabbing an officer. Lovely display by some fans that can not handle their booze. I have to say I do blame the City of Calgary. They rent out foothills stadium for a prider booze fest prior to the game. Yup thats get these great fans to buy booze get them liquored up and send them into a crowd of people. Yes the fan themselves should use restraint in boozing it up but the City of Calgary was the enabler here. That practice has to stop. The sad part is this could very well end tailgating at Stampeder games.

Just wondering if you have ever been to a Rider-Stamps game at McMahon? I have, and I suspect you have little to no idea what you are talking about. No surprise there....
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I went to the U of Calgary and then lived right across from the stadium for 5 years and yes, did attend about 15 Stamps - Riders games. I even had a media pass one year from a friend and got to walk field level when Danny was the Riders coach.

Everytime its the same thing in the northwest corner. A bunch of drunk Riders fans, puking on each other, picking fights, wearing watermelons on their heads, streaking the field (most times), and yelling obscenities all game long. I now have children and would never take them to the NW corner during a Riders game. Its disgusting. Human beings at their worst and I say good on the cops for cleaning the section up. Don't think for a minute those fans were angels and the cops were just using undo force because that would be the biggest joke ever in professional sports viewing.

How about you Arius? Ever left the farm to the big city ?
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Sounds to me you have the details pretty dam correct.

Hmm very good article: Points to be taken

"I am absolutely concerned with our officers' safety," said Supt. Trevor Daroux.

A nearby fan lunges at the officer and his hand appears to grab the policeman's belt, which would hold his sidearm, pepper spray and Taser, if equipped with one. The officer turns, swings at the fan and they tumble over the seats in the end-zone area.

Police said only one officer was called to the scene because the 35 other officers at the stadium were dealing with other incidents. ( Arius so much for just having security at something like this)

We have to keep in mind families attend these events and there's always a concern when you have these large crowds who are often fuelled by alcohol and it creates a risk to everybody, including our officers."

"Enforcement here has been great and I hope it continues. To me, the onus is completely on the few fans that get drunk and stupid and have no respect for the rest of the people who are here to watch a game."

"I can tell you right now, the games where you're going to have trouble is when you have Saskatchewan in here, and occasionally Edmonton -- but for the most part it's Saskatchewan."

The problem people is this is only a game, agame to be viewed by families and football fans not people that are going to a place to get drunk. You can have fun with out getting tanked and making a completed a$$ of yourself. Be agood football fan but do it with dignity.

There are other explainations for the Police service’s statements as well:

The police service and media have outside motivation behind their statements. If they release a statement saying they are reviewing the officer’s actions, then they open themselves up to a lawsuit. Their statements jump out and scream “cover-up” to a lot of people.

I just don’t see how he thought attacking the guy was the best course of action. If dragging the last guy away brought another person into the mix, how could he think that attacking the next would settle the situation? Especially considering he was without police backup. I have to agree with those that said he lost control and over-reacted. I also would agree with those that say he was placed in a bad situation. Losing control and over-reacting when in a bad situation is dangerous to yourself and everyone around you. If that is acting in accordance with training, then the training needs to be re-examined. It’s hard to lay fault and blame on the person responsible for discipline and order, especially under the circumstances he was faced with. But in this case, you have to at least acknowledge that he carried himself poorly and acted inappropriately.