Who will be the next Rider coach, at the end of the season. My Pick is Marshall (ex ticat), I like his attitude...stern but a players type coach
Why would the Riders Re-hire Greg Marshall, back into the team? he was already here once and he failed..
Marshal, Ritche, PaoPao all have had multiple opportunities, and IMHO have were not that great.
I loved KA as QB, but I don't want him on the team, as doesn't believe in the running game at all (by his own admission).
I dislike Barret's game time decision, and reluctance to make change, but he is the best coach in that list. I think Barret's rapport with the players is as good as it gets in pro sports. And DB has bought into life in Regina, which I think is important. Don Mathews spent as little time as he could there, I am sure.
If it is deemed a new coach is needed, why bother recyclying some other teams garbage. Get a fresh face in.
I agree snowsquirrel. Just from comments I have heard in the media, it almost seems that Danny doesn't want to work for Eric Tillman. I can understand that Barrett has hard feelings, after all Tillman was given the job that was promised to Danny by Roy Shivers. Only time will tell if DB buys in to the Tillman philosophy, or is let go at the end of the season.
Cortez.
I think Cortez is the person best suited to be the next Rider coach on that list. Barrett's run is over here-- it was that way when the season started , really. If Shiv didnt get fired , then his contract would not have been renewed,and DB would not be too far behind him.
I put it in another thread, but I think it bears repeating.
Argo offence was going nowhere under Austin. He gets fired and do you not agree the Argos’ offence has been much better since?
That says a lot to me; stay away from Austin.
does anyone know what Warren Moon is doing ? ? ? ?
Moon wouldn't come to Saskatchewan!
After reading the paper this morning there was a interview about Kent Austin Praising the fact they (Riders) hired Tillman..was he just commenting or does he know more than we know?.....obviously hes not gonna say if he did to sidetrack Barrett..I think this definately puts him in the running
Warren Moon broadcasts for the Seattle Seahawks in the NFL, as a play-by-play commentator. And although I’m certain any type of career up here in the CFL is done with, he’d definitley consider Edmonton first.
Anyways, back to the topic… Esks fire Danny Maciocca, and he becomes the Roughrider’s head coach next season! :lol:
No , we dont need coaches like Maciocca, Jim Daley was bad enough. Barrett is definitely done when this season is over. Tillman has to choose very carefully for his next head coach... Rider fans will roast him endlessly if he doesnt make a good choice.
Cortez is a great choice guys!!!
he ran the Stamps Offense back when Buono was the HC.
Media is a powerful tool. It can make one look like a hero or a zero no matter what he has done. This week it has caused one man to be fired and those that let him go appear to be heros. Yet it could just have easily lifted the man who was let go to legendary status and bestowed upon those who let him go the role of goat. Six years ago a man was hired to be general manager of a 3-15 team in the CF of L. A team that had not played in a playoff game in 2 years and except for a freak 2 game winning streak in 1997 had not one a playoff game since 1989 the year they won their last Grey Cup. And in that time did not ever host a home playoff game. The year was 1999. The man was hired as a straight shooter who would tell it like it is. He was hired after the good ol’ boy and the big city slicker turned down the job. In his 6 and one half years here in the backwater of the CF of L - a little flat piece of land that even honest pirates would not sail to steal drought ridden wheat - that General Manager was able to attract premiere talent to the team. At first it was a receiver from Calgary then a quarterback who went to the NFL. The offense began to improve. Then it was a strong-side linebacker than another allowing the first to move on to another team. Both are perennial all-stars in this league. A halfback, a couple of cornerbacks...the list goes on and on until finally the entire roster was overhauled into a selection of talent that was so large it spilled over to other teams. Hello there Kevin Glenn, George White, Henry Burris and Corey Holmes. The backwater became a hotbed. The players wanted to come. The GM found them. They played happily for the coach and the defensive co-ordinator. They played in the playoffs for four straight years. Winning a couple Western Semi-Finals on the road before losing two heartbreaking West Finals before succumbing to a mediocre 9-9 season last year. The same record recorded in 1989. The media began the next season with the words mediocre on the cover. They called for the head of the GM, and the coach. They were no longer good enough for this team that was a perennial playoff contender back in the days remember them. I don't and I am 35. I began coming to games in 1977 I was six. One Grey Cup....One home playoff game in 29 years. Yet that is what the media records as the downfall of the GM and the Coach. No matter what they tell you it was the media who fired this GM. They did not like him for a variety of reasons. He told it like it was. He let them know they were ignorant of what they spoke yet they held all the cards. They told him to fire the head coach or he himself would be fired. He had principles. He knew that half the reason the players came was because of the head coach. He knew that the players played hard for him. The results would come. The proof was in the progression. Though there had been a brief stagnation and that did trouble him. He still had confidence. They would get it done. They would win a home playoff game. The Grey Cup would come. Though those things are fleeting just ask the Edmonton Eskimos in 1989 the best team does not always win.
Now it is done. The GM is gone. The good old boys are in charge. The media is happy. They tell the fans they are happy the team is theirs once more. The fans are happy. Wait. The media still has an axe to grind. The coach is still here. A new stage must be set. What if the Riders Win Now...what if the cup comes to Saskatchewan. The fans will rejoice. The media will rejoice. The media will have to eat their words. This cannot be done. If this happens it will be because of the actions of the board. The board who read their headlines. The coach and the team they will have been driven by that faithful day. The firing of the GM will be looked at as the reason the Cup was won. It will be the board that will be glorified. It will be the president who will be honoured. Not the coach nor his players. However, if they lose it will not be because of the turmoil caused this day. It will be the coach and his lenient ways. His uncooperative (with the media) ideals that will have lost the day. It is he who would be vilified and blamed. Such is the nature of coaching.
Ideally what does occur is that the coach and his team play for themselves. They go out and play solid football and enjoy the game. In a perfect world they go all the way and win the Grey Cup. Then the coach is offered a new contract from the new GM and the new president. Not because the media wants them to but because now they must. The decision would now be in the coaches hands. Many opportunities would be before him. His fellow coaches, his players and his friend the fired GM. The decision would be his. A decision I hopes he makes remembering that faithful day.
Having said that the only reason Shivers was fired when he was is because the board feared what would happen if the Riders did win the Grey Cup. If that would have happened they would have had no choice but to hire Danny Barrett as the new GM as Roy Shivers suggested. That being done Richie Hall would have been named the new head coach an honour well diserved after all his contributions both on the field and in the coaching ranks to the Riders.
Instead we have the vultures circling, the so-called 13th man being lead like sheep by the manipulations of the media. Enjoy the wins as they come and wait for a losing streak to circle as vultures and speculate on the new head coach. Though you are likely right even if the Riders do win the Cup there will be a new head coach. And we will be back to the days we all have forgotten.
^^I agree 100% with realriderfan
Well said. I agree 100%. There is this column in the Leader Post, its written by this dude, its usually on the front page on the right side of the sports section. If the riders win, its heaven on earth, if they lose then its time to fire Danny Barrett, cut the QB, trade a RB or something like that. In another post i made i basically asked who the BOD were and how they got their power. They obviously must have read that article on the wrong day or something.
Thanks RealRiderFan for answering my question. I have a question for you now tho. how long did it take you write that post man? lol
At first i was kinda curious to see how Barrett might fare after his divorce......BUT!!!after hearing the comments he made about " possibly resigning over the Shivers dismissal" I realized where the Riders rank on his list of prioritys.....So, bye bye Barrett.......GO RIDERS GO
I voted for Kent Austin, because Austin the HC would be different then Austin the OC. However Cortez might be a good choice, but Tillman seems to like to have a say in how the Head Coach runs the team, and sometimes you end up with weak happy to be there coaches. I don't think Austin would fit that bill.
Well said. I agree 100%. There is this column in the Leader Post, its written by this dude, its usually on the front page on the right side of the sports section. If the riders win, its heaven on earth, if they lose then its time to fire Danny Barrett, cut the QB, trade a RB or something like that. In another post i made i basically asked who the BOD were and how they got their power. They obviously must have read that article on the wrong day or something.Thanks RealRiderFan for answering my question. I have a question for you now tho. how long did it take you write that post man? lol
That dude is one of the members of the media I was speaking of. He just so happens to have the biggest soap box. As for the length of that post. Well it is longer then others It took around 20 min to write and another 5-10 to check the facts to make sure I did not miss a home playoff game or playoff win during the Al Ford era. I didn’t.
Damn man, you really got into that post. It was a great post tho