Renegades not interested in trading Joseph?

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WHILE the Renegades are still offering Kerry Joseph a long term deal, they are now also officially open to offers for their No. 1 quarterback.

"I'm not soliciting a trade," GM Forrest Gregg said yesterday, asked about the possibility of dealing the three-year starter, "but if anybody has an interest and they want to call, I'd listen.

"I'd like to have Kerry back, and signed to a new contract. Would we take him back (to play out his option)? That's possible ... a lot of things can happen. But it wouldn't be as good a situation as I'd like. You spend time developing people, putting them in a system and letting them play, and then they're gone.

"I'll listen to offers, but my ambition is to get him signed."

Gregg confirmed he's had preliminary discussions with the Saskatchewan Roughriders that -- according to former GM-turned-Sportsnet football insider Eric Tillman -- have reached the serious stage. While the website report says a proposed deal would see Ottawa trade Joseph for starting Canadian-safety Scott Gordon, either quarterback Nealon Greene or veteran offensive lineman Fred Childress and Saskatchewan's first two picks in the upcoming Canadian college draft, Gregg denied specific players had been mentioned.

"(Team president) Lonie (Glieberman) was approached at Grey Cup by (Saskatchewan GM) Roy Shivers, he and Roy talked about something and he told Roy to call me," said Gregg. "Roy did. We talked, but that's as far as it went.

"(Shivers) was upset that this got out, as I was. We were doing preliminaries."

As reported in the Sun months ago, Joseph is set to earn a base salary of $310,000 in 2006, with bonuses that could push him close to the $400,000 range. That would also make him one of the higher paid quarterbacks in the league, a lofty status considering his modest accomplishments thus far.

Last season, Joseph became just the third quarterback in CFL history to rush for 1,000 yards and throw for 4,000 in the same season. But he also threw 23 interceptions (second most in the league) and just 25 touchdown passes, while posting an 86.7 efficiency rating -- fourth lowest in the league.

While Greene is just 29, a great running quarterback and has experience with new Ottawa coach John Jenkins' offence (in Toronto), he lost his starting job with the Roughriders last season to Marcus Crandell.

Should he be traded to the Renegades, it's believed they'd want to bring in another, higher level QB to compete with him and Brad Banks for the starter's job.

Gordon, who grew up in Ottawa, would give the Renegades an upgrade at the safety position, currently held by import Quincy Coleman. Childress, who is considered a physical player, started his CFL career in Shreveport under Gregg.


Trading Joseph likely wouldn't be the preference of Jenkins, who feels the 32-year old can be a star with some technique adjustments. There's speculation Joseph wants to explore any NFL options, however, which is why he hasn't yet opted for the security Ottawa is offering.

Interestingly, a younger (25) Renegade with more realistic chances of playing down south is linebacker Kyries Hebert, and it's believed he is close to signing a four or five-year contract with Ottawa.

"My No. 1 priority is to get the quarterback issue settled," said Gregg. "Just so we know what we have to work with."

Meanwhile, Gregg confirmed the Tillman report by saying the Renegades have "an interest" in signing 76-year-old Rod Rust to join their coaching staff, presumably as defensive co-ordinator. Rust was the Blue Bombers' defensive co-ordinator last season before having to leave the team for personal matters. In his 44 years of coaching, Rust has been defensive co-ordinator for five NFL teams as well as the head coach of the New England Patriots. He also has plenty of CFL experience, including a stint (2001) as coach of the Montreal Alouettes.

Good article to post DG, I read it myself the other day. I don't get it, on the one hand they are not interested and want to sign Joseph to a long term deal, yet they are "shopping" him around by having discussions with the RR. Which is it? Based on this, I think Kerry is as good as gone. I would not want to come back to this eviroment if I was him. Also, during GC week and all week long the Score had Milt Stegall on as a commentator with Sebalsky and the very good Duane Forde. Anyway, when asked Milt said and you know he would have the pulse of other players, how no one wants to go to the Gades as a FA because of the circus like atmosphere. I think that says it all.

good article hunting DG.

Ottawa better keep joseph, they need a hero in Ottawa right now.

ottawa has its heros...but they all play

sad but true, how is Heatly doing in Ottawa?

Wicked he has at least a point in the last 23 out of 24 games. On the Jospeh note I say trade him. He's had 4 years to make an impact and has only cost us game after game. I wouldnt want Green though, since it would be more of the last. Gordon/Childress and the picks would have many benefits, and I would have a little more respect for the current owners if they made a deal like this. But I'm sure as it always happens, that as soon as he was traded Jospeh would have a career season, and everyone back at home would be wondering what if. But thats the way it always goes so I say trade him well people are still interested.