Real change needed

I posted this in the game thread, but I'll say it again. It's time to fire Jim Popp.

On Popp's watch, the organization has become a laughingstock in the space of just three years, and he has no plan to turn things around. We need a new perspective, a fresh voice who can take objective stock of where the team is at and make the necessary changes to turn the franchise around. That voice is not Jim Popp. He has given tremendous service to this organization, but he is past his best-before date with the Alouettes and there is no sign of any kind of turnaround.

And if Wetenhall can't bring himself to fire Popp, he should sell the team. An owner who is so dependent on one man to run the football ops is not a good owner, just an old man blindly dependent on a GM who is no longer able to run a team in a non-dysfunctional manner.

And to be clear, I respect the hell out of what Popp has built in Montreal. Until recently, I was in his corner, defending him to other Als fans. But the last two weeks have forced me to stare the truth in the face: Jim Popp should not be running our team any longer. It's time for him to go.

[i]Good to see you back! :smiley:

Johnny wanted to start a "Fire Jim Popp" thread! You are absolutely right. Popp and Wetenhal are too comfy with each other. Popp isn't what he used to be. Popp needs to go once the season is over. Bring in a young guy who is hungry, who will live in the city where his team is. Let him choose all of his scouts. From top to bottom, the GM, scouts and personnel need to leave.

Then have the new GM conduct a full and proper coaching search. It's possible good head coach candidates will not come to Montreal, just because Popp is here. All the more reason to let him go!

Any so called solution that has Popp remaining as GM will fail. Any solution that has Popp remaining as GM and head coach will HORRIBLY fail!

All good things eventually end. The Popp years in Montreal need to end. [/i]

FIRE JIM POPP!!!!!!!!

I haven't lost faith in Popp. Hawkins and Higgins were terrible hires and both were Wetenhall's choice. Sticking Popp in as HC for a fourth time also Wetenhall. Firing Smith and Lalonde also Wetenhall...

Jim insisted on Thorpe and Kavis Reed who were good hires and this is a talented team without a Quarterback and this is going to be stretched out as long as their is instability in the coaching ranks (on offense)

Muamba was another great signing, probably the best FA signing of the year.

I'm not quite sure how long it will take to turn this around. They could get lucky and and do it in a year or two but it could take 3 or more years. At this point I'm not sold on any of the QB's on the roster. Cato has the talent but there are other questions with him and AC is a big question mark as well. Only time will tell.

There will be a lot of departures in the off season. Some who could possibly be gone. Stamps, Hebert, Lewis, Wood, Brouillette, Edem, Perrett, Brown, Crompton, Lewis, Marsh

There also needs to be an overhaul to the scouting staff. The Als are not getting their money's worth out of Popp's army of scouts.

I don't see Jim being fired by Wetenhall EVER and frankly there is no one out there available who has better odds at fixing this mess. Either way it will take time.

That, right there, is the problem. No GM should have immunity from being fired if the results aren't there.

and frankly there is no one out there available who has better odds at fixing this mess.
Disagree. At this point, hiring someone who isn't Jim Popp would be a step in the right direction. I agree that Wetenhall is responsible for a lot of the damage recently but Popp is right there too. Scouting has fallen off big-time. No recruiting on the D-line, particularly at end. The Michael Sam fiasco. No ability to find good young wide receivers. No ability to find quarterbacks.

In a perfect world, Wetenhall would sell the team to an owner with cahones and that owner would clean house.

Très heureux de voir notre ami D & P sortir de son mutisme! :thup:

S'il est vrai que des changements profonds sont nécessaires, la question demeure de savoir si les problèmes des Alouettes sont le fruit du travail de Popp ou pas.

Inévitablement, puisque c'est lui qui assemble les morceaux du casse-tête, Popp a une bonne part de responsabilité dans cette histoire. Il est à la fois celui qui embauche les musiciens et le chef d'orchestre. Et présentement, l'orchestre faussse terriblement. Popp a procédé à de bonnes embauches ces dernières années, mais on dirait qu'il n'arrive plus à terminer les mouvements. On dirait que lorsqu'il arrive à faire le travail pour une unité, il y en a toujours une par laquelle le malheur arrive. L'harmonie ne s'installe pas dans toutes les parties de l'orchestre.

J'ai exposé mes impressions dans ma lettre ouverte à M. Wettenhall et ne veut pas trop étirer la sauce, mais commence à me demander aussi si Popp a encore sa touche. Je trouve que si les résultats de la défensive de ces dernières années et ceux des unités spéciales cette année sont dignes de mention, l'attaque croupit lamentablement depuis le départ de Marc Trestman. 3 ans pour s'attaquer à ce problème criant, c'est long pour une organisation qui se targuait d'être parmi les meilleures de cette ligue. Popp doit montrer qu'il veut refaire de cette équipe une équipe championne, montrer qu'il peut encore le faire, et ceci dès la prochaine saison. S'il ne parvient pas à faire redresser cette attaque misérable, on pourra admettre qu'il a perdu sa touche.

Cela va donc commencer par se mettre lui-même dehors comme entraîneur-chef. Qu'il réalise qu'il n'a pas du tout l'étoffe du métier et qu'il travaille dès à présent à dénicher un entraîneur-chef digne de ce titre. Dans la même foulée, il va falloir que cette équipe ait un coordonnateur à l'attaque qui connaît son métier. On peut bien avoir de jeunes quarts autour de qui bâtir, ce n'est pas avec des entraîneurs sans métier qu'on construit une attaque de la LCF. Dinwiddie et Calvillo n'ont pas encore assez de métier dans le corps pour assumer cette charge. S'il faut que les Alouettes les remettent en poste l'an prochain autrement que comme entraîneurs de position, Popp ne se rendra pas à la fin de son contrat parce qu'il n'y aura pas de saison 2017 à Montréal.

Il va falloir que les Alouettes remettent en question leur système de dépistage. Il m'apparaît clair que les Alouettes se sont fait dépasser à ce chapitre et tout particulièrement en ce qui concerne les joueurs offensifs : quarts, demis et receveurs, les autres équipes de la LCF ont pour la plupart le dessus sur les Alouettes. Les Alouettes en trouvent quelques bons, mais pas assez pour qu'on puisse dire qu'ils ont de la profondeur.

Il va rester le quart-arrière qui commence à hanter le bilan de Popp atrocement. Si Cato a du talent, la partie d'hier nous a montré qu'il n'a pas la solidité nécessaire pour rester bien longtemps dans cette ligue. Ce n'est plus la NCAA. Cato peut bien arriver à un jour maîtriser une attaque, je ne crois pas qu'il pourra être une base solide pour son équipe. Son gabarit vient de le rattraper, et à moins de se remplumer beaucoup de sorte qu'il puisse encaisser les chocs auxquels il fera inévitablement face, il ne pourra jamais s'installer comme le pilier de l'attaque. Popp doit déjà regarder ailleurs. Il y a présentement une émergence de jeunes quarts très intéressants dans cette ligue (Cato, Franklin, Matthews, Jennings), ce qui montre que les candidats sont là. Popp et ses comparses doivent montrer qu'ils peuvent les dénicher et bien les entourer. Ça commence donc par l'équipe d'entraîneurs offensifs, et parmi celle des Alouettes il n'y a pratiquement que Kris Sweet que je garderais autrement que pour le contrôle de la qualité.

Je suis peut-être trop patient avec Popp en lui donnant une autre chance de montrer qu'il a toujours la foi et l'inspiration, mais je dois avouer que si de profonds changements ne s'opèrent pas pour 2016, il va falloir que l'équipe pense à remplacer Popp.

Cela dit, c'est facile de dire qu'il doit être remplacé. La vraie question est surtout de savoir par qui. C'est là que tout le noeud se trouve.

Great post, LeStaf, as usual.

Maybe I'm being harsh on Popp, but I've had it with the three-ring circus. I agree that a large part of the problem is Wetenhall's meddling and unwillingness to hold his GM accountable, which is why I also feel that if W can't fire Popp, he needs to sell the team to an owner willing to run this franchise like a business. A GM without accountability isn't going to push himself to succeed.

I agree! Selling the team to a corporation like they have done in Calgary, Toronto and likely soon in BC is the best way to go. This team needs a professional facelift, it needs investment in a training facility and the political push to get the stadium situation sorted with the BigOgly.

With the current state of the team, legitimate arguments can of course be made for firings, etc., but I cant help but wonder how different things might be if we only had a legitimate CFL QB. This has been Popps biggest failing.

Crompton and Marsh Badness have to go, Cato does not have the physical build to survive as a pro QB, Boone seems to be just another guy. And I can only imagine how Bridge looks in practice if they`re not dressing him.

Kevin Glenn and Ricky Ray will be free agents, and Ray throwing with his left arm is probably better than what we have.

In any case a new Head Coach or even new GM better have a decent QB or we`ll continue to go in circles.

I generally agree with you,Sheldon. The number 1 problem remains the QB situation. Easy to say fire Jim Popp,clean house,etc.... Easier to demolish than to construct. Forget Ricky Ray,Sheldon. Will he ever be 100%? I doubt.

Yes, easy to say the recruiting has been bad,the scouts are no good but, beside a QB, the recruiting is not that bad; yes, trading for Fred Stamps was a mistake, but,again, without a decent QB I don't care if you have the best receivers in the CFL, you will lose more than win. Yes, this may be a broken record, but if Hamilton, Ottawa and Toronto would have had as many injuries to their QB's I am positive that their records would not be the same. I know that it does not change the reality, but before throwing rocks at Mr. Wetenhall and the Organization let's look at the reality/injuries to key players.

Again it is easy to say find a good QB but easier said than done; more than half of NFL teams don't have a top QB; when new young QB's graduate, the good ones will try/go to the NFL first.

The Organization is doing the outmost for the fans; unfortunately, until a good QB emerges, time will be difficult.

Regarding the coaching staff, again it is easy to say fire them/replace them but how/by whom do you replace them? Without Anthony Calvillo, Marc Trestman record would not have been the same. Easy to say that Anthony is not ready to be Offensive Coordinator, but unless he has a good QB to execute his plans/plays, the results would be,most of the time, bad.
Presently, talent wise,except at QB, the Als can compete with any other CFL team.

What will happen in the off-season? I don't know. Should the Als go ahead and proceed with the replacements of the whole coaching staff, I expect the results to be much more negative than positive. While I agree that Jim Popp may not be the ideal candidate as the Head Coach, I still think that it is the best scenario for the 2016 season. There may be a future Head Coach in the Als present coaching staff, but none of them is ready for 2016. In the off-season, the outmost shall be done to find a very good QB; furthermore, veterans that have had their best years shall be replaced/released. Players such as John Bowman, Jerald Brown, Nik Lewis, Fred Stamps, Eric Deslauriers,Jonathan Hefney, Jonathan Crompton, Tanner Marsh, Dan LeFevour,Kyries Hebert,Corvey Irvin,Billy Parker,James Rodgers and Mardy Gilyard come to mind. Chip Cox could also be a possibility as is Josh Bourke, should he be too "hungry" when comes time to renew his contract. Easy to replace these players. One positive aspect is the fact that the have have good canadian veterans and future young stars.

In summary, the number 1 problem remains the QB situation.

Richard

Bien d'accord que Ray ne sera pas à 100%. Mais Ray à 75% est meilleur que tous nos quarts. Disons qu'il pourrait faire partie d'un plan de transition si nous avions un quart à qui montrer le métier. Un peu comme Mitchell a appris derrière Glenn.

Yes, easy to say the recruiting has been bad,the scouts are no good but, beside a QB, the recruiting is not that bad; yes, trading for Fred Stamps was a mistake, but,again, without a decent QB I don't care if you have the best receivers in the CFL, you will lose more than win. Yes, this may be a broken record, but if Hamilton, Ottawa and Toronto would have had as many injuries to their QB's I am positive that their records would not be the same. I know that it does not change the reality, but before throwing rocks at Mr. Wetenhall and the Organization let's look at the reality/injuries to key players.
Hamilton a perdu Collaros mais leur attaque ressemble encore à une attaque.

Les Lions ont perdu Lulay mais leur attaque ressemble encore à une attaque.

L'attaque des Eskimos ressemblait à une attaque avec Franklin aux commandes, sauf cette partie contre Calgary.

À Montréal, l'attaque n'a eu l'air d'une attaque que lors de la partie contre Winnipeg il y a quelques semaines.

Avec un vrai coordonnateur à l'attaque, les résultats des jeunes quarts sont meilleurs que ceux qu'on voit à Montréal. J'ai beaucoup de respect pour Calvillo et Dinwiddie, mais ils ne sont pas des coordonnateurs à l'attaque, du moins pas encore. J'ai beaucoup de respect pour Popp, mais il n'est pas un entraîneur-chef et il ne le sera jamais.

Again it is easy to say find a good QB but easier said than done; more than half of NFL teams don't have a top QB; when new young QB's graduate, the good ones will try/go to the NFL first.

The Organization is doing the outmost for the fans; unfortunately, until a good QB emerges, time will be difficult.


On doit tout de même se demander pourquoi les autres équipes arrivent mieux à en dénicher que les Alouettes.
Regarding the coaching staff, again it is easy to say fire them/replace them but how/by whom do you replace them? Without Anthony Calvillo, Marc Trestman record would not have been the same. Easy to say that Anthony is not ready to be Offensive Coordinator, but unless he has a good QB to execute his plans/plays, the results would be,most of the time, bad. Presently, talent wise,except at QB, the Als can compete with any other CFL team.
Non. Les Alouettes n'ont pas le talent qu'il faut au niveau de l'entraîneur-chef, ni au niveau des entraîneurs à l'attaque. Seul Kris Sweet est du bon calibre. À la limite, je veux bien laisser le bénéfice du doute à Bolduc. Mais Dinwiddie et Calvillo ne m'ont pas encore montré qu'ils sont à la hauteur de leurs défis respectifs.
What will happen in the off-season? I don't know. Should the Als go ahead and proceed with the replacements of the whole coaching staff, I expect the results to be much more negative than positive. While I agree that Jim Popp may not be the ideal candidate as the Head Coach, I still think that it is the best scenario for the 2016 season. There may be a future Head Coach in the Als present coaching staff, but none of them is ready for 2016.
Je crois que les Alouettes sont condamnés à la misère si Popp revient comme entraîneur-chef. Je suis certain que Thrope est un bien meilleur candidat, mais il faudra avoir un coordonnateur à l'attaque de premier plan. On sait déjà que Popp ne sera jamais un entraîneur-chef gagnant. Il ne l'a pas été avec Calvillo sous la main, il ne le sera pas avec n'importe quel autre quart non plus. Je ne peux souscrire à cette idée que le retour de Popp est le meilleur scénario pour 2016.
In the off-season, the outmost shall be done to find a very good QB; furthermore, veterans that have had their best years shall be replaced/released. Players such as John Bowman, Jerald Brown, Nik Lewis, Fred Stamps, Eric Deslauriers,Jonathan Hefney, Jonathan Crompton, Tanner Marsh, Dan LeFevour,Kyries Hebert,Corvey Irvin,Billy Parker,James Rodgers and Mardy Gilyard come to mind. Chip Cox could also be a possibility as is Josh Bourke, should he be too "hungry" when comes time to renew his contract. Easy to replace these players. One positive aspect is the fact that the have have good canadian veterans and future young stars.
Il y a des joueurs qui partiront dans cette liste. Pour ma part, je crois que Bowman, LeFevour, Hebert et Parker reviendront au camp d'entraînement en 2016 et devront gagner leur poste. Je crois que Cox va être de retour à son poste en 2016. Je crois que Bourke sera de retour si son successeur n'est pas identifié. Foucault ne s'est pas encore trouvé de travail, alors peut-être sera-t-il du camp des Alouettes en 2016, ce qui pourrait changer la donne. Sinon, Ruby est aussi dans l'équipe et il se trouve que c'est en principe son substitut. D'autre part, je suis convaincu que Bear Woods a joué son dernier match avec les Alouettes.
In summary, the number 1 problem remains the QB situation.

Richard


C'est un peu réducteur. Il y a d'autres difficultés.

Outre les difficultés que j'ai soulevées, on doit regarder avec un oeil critique le travail de Sutton, Rutley et des receveurs. Je crois que Hoffman et Cunningham sont des prospects intéressants. Je crois que Charette ne s'est pas trop mal tiré d'affaires non plus, même s'il doit encore faire du rattrapage pour rejoindre les deux premiers. Lewis pourrait avoir encore une certaine utilité, mais je ne serais pas si surpris de le voir partir non plus. Les Alouettes ont fait le plein de receveurs et de demis défensifs récemment. Je pense que ce sont effectivement deux endroits où ils manquent de profondeur. Également, on doit souligner la faible pression sur le quart apportée par les plaqueurs défensifs des Alouettes. Ces joueurs font leur travail correctement, mais leur pression sur le quart est insuffisante.

Contrairement à leurs bonnes années, les Alouettes ont présentement moins de profondeur dans l'ensemble de leurs positions. Ils ont de la profondeur pour ce qui est de leurs joueurs nationaux, mais chez les internationaux, on ne peut pas dire que la relève est prête dans l'ensemble.

Bien ecrit LeStaff. Je suis avec vous concernant votre analyse.

Des autre equipes (aussi les Argos qui n ont pas eu Ray cet annee) ont trouve une facon de gagner.
Malheureusement, c est pas la meme histoire avec les Alouette.

D apres moi, il y a plusieurs problemes avec l equipe et non seulement la position de QB.

Sheldon: This is my concern also- we are very weak at the QB situation. The administration dysfunction goes back a few years when the team became aware of Calvillo’s leaving. Popp was not effective in acquiring a second string QB. If you look at BC, the Argos, and Calgary, they always seem to have another QB in place when the leading QB goes down. The TICats reached out for Collaros who was second to Rick Ray and, had some rookie time effectly with the Argos. BC acquired Lulay at a free agent camp and now have Jennings who looks real good, at QB. D Tate is there for the Stamps. Franklin is waiting in the wings for Edmonton. The Als did have McPherson, who was a contender for Calvillo’s position but, not being allowed developmental time, left for Tampa Bay. Popp’s decision to not pay attention to the need of a replacement for the aging Calvillo, left the Als up the creek without a paddle. He too quickly ditched Ken Stafford who is now big for the Esks. When Popp was at his best he would secure younger players. Instead we received NFL vets who did not pan out and then, even worse, he signed back former Als players. DP knows the game well and I agree that some change is required from management.
I was greatly looking forward to seeing Cato in action yesterday, until Cato went down, again. Boone and Marsh were very ineffectual.Their play featured the short pass and the team’s running backs. However, any offense has to play long as well. A QB who can stretch the field with the long ball is essential otherwise the team would be too easy for the defense.I do not see Marsh or Boone in this category as their longest pass seems to be a 4 yarder. Cato is become our "missing QB’. He was missing for a spell at training camp. Missing again re his first injury, missing when he was called to Florida and likely now missing once more. Cato, though throws a good ball, both long and short

In early season there was discussion of his slight stature, will he stand up to the rigors of contact at a professional QB? We likely have an answer to that now. His game featured skill at both running and passing in university and, to function at his peak, this would mean he should play at this P/R. Should he play from the pocket? Would he functional from this position? I question that he would.
Other notes from yesterday: Whitaker was a star player for the Argos. This might question Popp’s not retaining him but, its impossible to forecast this type of decision. We also went through this with Stala- always injured then, he becomes a star for the TiCats. Muamba was a great signing, he proved it so yesterday.He and Elsworth will remake positively the MLB positon.We have the need for a couple of newcomers to our defense, especially now that the offense falters.I thought Lewis was worth his salary yesterday. He reminds me of Giguere who also can take a short pass and push it further for a first down. Venable was our defensive star yesterday. Logan was our best find this season.Somehow when he goes full stride,we ufortubately have someone called for holding. The Argos have a great passing attack this season with Chad Owens being Popp’s nemesis making a super TD catch.The quickness of the Argos in getting their first TD reminded me of the Als during the Calvillo/Richardson era which featured an early TD pass for the Als.
Knapton continues to impress. I hope Hoffman will return from sick bay and, again watching yesterday, this team requires more speed from the receiver position. The huge requirement for this team now is a new coach.

D'après ce qu'on peut lire, il semble,du moins pour certains, que les autres équipes se sont bien débrouillés,surtout avec des quarts recrues, lorsque le partant a été blessé. J'inclus quelques données,victoires et défaites, particulièrement concernant les quarts qui ont joué dans la LCF pour la première fois en 2015.

Montréal:

Avec Rakeem Cato comme partant Montréal est 4-6; avec Crompton ou Marsh c'est 1-3.

Edmonton:

Suite à la blessure de Mike Reilly, Edmonton a un record de 1-3 avec James Franklin; avec Matt Nichols le record est de 5-1.

BC:

Avec Jonathan Jennings comme partant BC est 1-3.

Hamilton:

Avec Jeff Matthews comme partant, du moins pour la majorité des parties, Hamilton a un record de 1-2.

Tous les quarts recrus ont plus de défaites que de victoires; si Edmonton est en première place, Matt Nichols a eu beaucoup à dire ou faire; ce n'est pas à cause de Franklin.

Je n'ai jamais écrit que le seul problème des Alouettes est au niveau du quart; ce que j'ai écrit c'est que le manque d'un bon quart est le problème numéro un. Je dirais que le problème numéro 2 est chez les receveurs même si, avec un quart compétent, ce serait beaucoup moins évident. Comme au hockey tu n'iras pas loin sans un bon gardien de but, au baseball sans de bons lanceurs, au football tu n'iras pas loin sans un bon quart. Je ne connais pas trop d'équipes qui ont gagné la coupe Stanley sans un bon gardien ou les séries mondiales au baseball ou Super Bowl ou coupe Grey sans un bon quart.

Beaucoup de suggestions,pas toutes du même avis, seront écrites et ce sera certainement intéressant à lire.

Richard

[i]Popp is too entrenched and larger than life in the organization. He is held accountable by no one. Him and Wetenhal have too much of a comfortable friendship/relationship. Popp stopped trying to impress his "uncle" Wetenhal long ago.

This is bad for the organization. Everyone needs to fear their boss just a little bit. Or else it becomes a Club med. That is reason enough for Popp to be let go. His lack of motivation is another. He lives in North Carolina for truck's sake! After 19 years and tons of success, it's normal for someone to become complacent a little bit. What is there left to prove? He needs a new challenge.

Every executive or GM in Football is eventually fired. Even the great ones. After a while, change is required for all parties. Most great execs or GMs don't stay anywhere near as long as Popp has been with the Alouettes. He had a great run, legendary even. But,

IT IS TIME! [/i]

Johnny pretty much nailed it.

I have gone on record as noting that my opinion of Jim Popp has changed in the past few weeks. Earlier in the season, I was in his corner. I am no longer in his corner. What I find curious is the fact that certain members, such as Richard, were hyper-critical of Popp earlier in the year, but are now doing their level best to defend him as GM and as coach. What changed for you guys? Richard, you were very harsh on Popp's recruitment at wide receiver, and now you want him back not only as GM but as head coach? I honestly don't understand.

And he's replaced by whom ??? Franco media is trying to peddle your "cousin" Frank Macioocia :lol:

Yes, I was critical of Jim Popp for his recruiting,particularly for not bringing young WR at training camp along with defensive tackles, but criticizing a person does not mean that you want him gone or feeling that he is no longer the option. I was also surprised that Tom Higgins was fired after 8 games; mind you, I would have not hired him in 2014. I would have kept Jim Popp as Head Coach.

Presently, while agreeing that Jim Popp is not a great Head Coach, I nevertheless think that the better option for 2016 is that he remains as Head Coach. Why? I don't see any CFL Coordinator -exclude Dave Dickenson- that is ready to be Head Coach. I would rather wait a year and then consider,amongst others, Noel Thorpe and Kavis Reed.

Richard

Your taking the side of Stability. I agree, there has just been too much movement in those football ops for anyone to come in and be successful.

Its also very possible the owner is holding out hope that Trestman might be available for next season. Ravens are 1-4. while their defense has been the main problem. Trestman and Flacco have not lite anything up either. Trestman would be the only HC you could slot in there and have everyone including Calvillo and Popp save face.