Raising funds for WH remediation and green space

I was just thinking it would be fine by me to help generate some funds from TiCat fans for WH cleanup and remediation to turn the area into green space, an area that can use more green space as it's close to lower income families in the James St N area, families that aren't trekking to cottages as much as others in the region, rather than a stadium and parking lot, that the TigerCats could start a fund of some sort to raise funds for the cleanup. I would be willing to pop down $25.00 say right now for this.

It's just a thought. Of course this is assuming the stadium goes to the RHV Parkway/Linc site.

Good plan I am in.

Totally. Would almost be cool if there could be some kind of event/ concert/ buskerfest/ art show, etc. that would benefit the west harbour remediation. Could see some kind of spectacle like that getting some attention.

I like that idea slo! :thup:
Maybe a concert tied in with this.

Awesome idea Earl,

Set the wheels in motion today for a "Hamilton" only event and grand opening of "OUR" new stadium. With 3-4 years to plan this grand event, raising money to be directed to the West Harbour / North End.

Theres a second reason we call it the "LINC" or 'LINK"

The wife and me went a couple years ago to the Toronto Live Green Festival to see David Usher (used to be lead singer of Moist) and Chantal Kreviacik and it was for a good cause and my wife loves David Usher. Maybe Hamilton could do this, David Adames from the city, and the TigerCats could be one of the sponsors. And I don't see this as hypocritical for the TigerCats with them looking at a location like the RHVP/Linc for a stadium (not first choice as they have said). Oil companies put money back into reforestation projects where they have torn down trees for drilling and that and this is hardly along those lines. And the city did build the RHVP in the first place to encourage more development on the mountain, at least as one of the initiatives of this highway.

But don't we all pay more every year in property taxes? doesn't Hamilton have the highest property tax rates in Canada?

How do you know your $25 would go to a park? But it is up to you if you want to contribute money to a charity. You could walk down to city hall and give them $25 it's up to you.

I know what you’re saying jay. My only point is to counteract those that say the TigerCats are contributing to urban sprawl and forgetting about city building and all of that with not going with the WH site. Just saying there are different ways of city building rather than building stadiums on land in a location like WH that is fairly precious. Sort of like the QEW and having it built below the escarpment taking up very valuable land where tenderfuit like peaches and some grape varieties can only grow because of the microclimate the escarpment allows for, would have been much better to have built in on top of the mountain where anything can grow. It just makes more sense to me to build at a site like RHVP/Linc than WH, lots of land on top of the escarpment. The WH is a piece of land that really needs some thought, again as Merulla has pointed out with Setting Sail.

Hey I'm in. Maybe we could convince the Ticats to sponsor a festival at Scott Park/Brian Timmins to raise funds and celebrate the new stadium. Make it a real party and have a specific project proposal for the funds (Bike path linking West Harbour with downtown and Dundurn Castle would be my suggestion)

Love the bike path idea !!

What I love about this thread and the ideas within it is the fact that it is a stunning example of how Canadians SHOULD be acting when confronted with an issue. It shows that the qualities of initiative, responsibility, action and good ole’ entrepreneurship remain alive in our country. Most often, Canadians faced with a similar issue would be dragging out the old statist line “the government should be doing something? and let the matter go. Not in this case. Bravo to the OP and to all who have offered ideas. I hope you can make this happen.

Ideas like this are how our world will become a better place. There are a lot of things I would 'invest' in to own a piece of. Even if it was a park where there is no return on my investment, but it can't be sold without my say for more concrete.

I'd like to rebuild IWS in the same manner. With our money, owned by us. Could go on and on with this peoples land thinking.

Not sure about this idea, you state "an area that can use more green space for lower income people" yet just metres away is the Waterfront with acres of green space and Dundurn with lots of green space too.
Let the city sell the site for condos, houses etc where they could actually get some revenue from property taxes which they could use to improve the waterfront.

Actually housing is part of the plan Mikem, but so is additional parkland to link downtown with the west harbour

Thank you AKT.

City banking on waterfront development

By Tara Perkins and Peter Van Harten
The Hamilton Spectator
July 13th 2004

[i]The new $10-million Canada Marine Discovery Centre and the restored destroyer HMCS Haida are making waves on Hamilton's west waterfront.

The city is counting on the new attractions to spark development on the waterfront lands wrested from the former harbour commission in 2000.

There has been no shortage of grand ideas, from floating hotel-casinos to lakeside stadiums.

They never materialized.

But there is hope that a Canadian Music Hall of Fame, proposed by developer Jasper Kujavsky, could land on the waterfront.

Councillor Bill Kelly, chair of the planning and economic development committee, is meeting with Hamilton Port Authority CEO Keith Robson today to chart the progress of commercial opportunities. The plan is to sort out what's on the horizon and how it will happen.

"It's an exciting time for us," he said.

"The discovery centre and the Haida will be the two anchors for future development because people will see what has been invested already."

Robson said the five hectares of Pier 8 not being used by the Parks Canada discovery centre should become the "city's playground."

There's investment money out there from pension plans and other sources. Kelly said it's a matter of developing sound business plans to attract that cash.

The port authority used last month's Port Days event to show how it's moving the lands from marine-industrial to commercial-recreational use, he said.

The city took over the lands from the former Hamilton Harbour Commission in a three-way deal with the federal government, but the Port Authority has a lease for the next 22 years.

That makes them an interested party in any development.

Robson said any commercial partnership involving the city, the port and private interests will have to be viable and self-sustaining.

"The city doesn't have any money and we are not in the business of subsidizing anyone," he said.

Councillor Sam Merulla said it's an issue that still needs to be worked out. "There have been some tangles in discussions that need to be ironed out."

The two sides are trying to reach an agreement that will see both profit from newly developed lands.

Robson said progress is slower than the authority would like, "but we are moving forward.''

A partnership deal with private interests could involve revenue sharing with the city or a sub-lease arrangement, he said.

Former MP and heritage minister Sheila Copps brought the Canada Parks' discovery centre and restored Haida to the Hamilton waterfront.

The ship is already welcoming crowds and the centre opens Saturday.

The city has been making steady progress on reclaiming the waterfront for years.

Recreation has been the focus. The notable successes have been Bayfront Park and Pier 4 Park and there's also the waterfront trail. Councillors Chad Collins and Merulla say it's time to move beyond recreation.

They imagine a picturesque area like the Halifax waterfront, complete with bars, restaurants, clothing stores and boutiques.

"Hamilton has trailed other communities in waterfront development and we're just trying to catch up now," said Collins, chair of the Hamilton Waterfront Trust.

The trust has opened a Williams Coffee Pub kiosk in its Pier 8 building.

It plans to turn that into a full-service operation.

It also hopes to buy a ship that could be used for weddings and other special events.

"If you look at the landscape down there, it's probably the best view of Hamilton.

"You really feel like you're in another community and I don't think a lot of people have realized that we have so much to offer there in the west harbour," Collins said.

He said business developers have been lining up for the land. "From hotel operators to museum operators to large and small residential developers, I think everyone realizes there's great potential there and we just haven't tapped that resource in the past."

Merulla said the waterfront land "is going to be the catalyst for a significant revitalization."

"In Hamilton, we have been somewhat slow in that initiative, but we're in the position now where, once the actual planning is approved by council, we can start looking at not only commercial but also residential development."

Neil Everson, executive director of the city's economic development department, said he has heard from interested developers but wouldn't identify them.

He hopes significant projects will get underway next year.

Kelly said the Haida and discovery centre are "tremendous magnets" and catalysts for private recreational development.

"I was skeptical -- marine discovery, big deal -- but I was overwhelmed when I was there and it wasn't even finished yet."

Kelly said he met last week with Kujavsky about his plans for a Canadian Music Hall of Fame at Pier 8.

"We have to come to the table with people and say, 'Look at this proposal. We want you to invest in this'," he said.

Kelly is hopeful that commercial partnership opportunities can be injected into the Setting Sail land use study being done by the city.

The Setting Sail study began with a visioning exercise that proposed possible signature attractions.

Planners are now working on detailed waterfront plans for roads, housing and community facilities stretching from the High Level Bridge to Wellington Street.

The plan has encountered opposition from some residents who are concerned about increased traffic and undesirable development.

In addition, recreational boaters [/i]have expressed worries about the loss of access to the waterfront.

Brilliant idea Earl! I'd totally be down with something like this! I think we should wait till things cool down and form up a fan committee to get things organized and get the club on board as well. We could organize a Ticat Fan Day at Bayfront! With the club throwing its weight behind and tossing in some prizes, cheerleaders, Stripes, and maybe a player or two we could draw a ton of people and raise some serious coin (not to mention showing that the fans care about this city).

We'll see what happens BigP. I do want to go on record that I believe there should be a committement by all parties involved to help clean up the Rheem site and brownfield to make the entire area more attractive for developing in the best way possible for the area. I don't think the facilitator's report touched on this but I might be wrong. I'd like to see some formal documentation of a plan of sorts.

"On record"? Considering politics Earl? After all this :lol:

You have a point there BigP, for sure. :? :wink: :slight_smile:

Nice idea, good sentiment... but really... a fan day that will raise "serious coin"?

Is that serious coin that will make a difference ie: millions upon millions, or do you just mean perhaps $100k?