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This is the 11th time since 1954 the Als and Eskies have met in the Grey Cup

Edmonton has a huge lead 7-3

2003 – 91st Grey Cup @ Regina : Eskimos 34, Alouettes 22
2002 – 90th Grey Cup @ Edmonton : Alouettes 25, Eskimos 16
1979 – 67th Grey Cup @ Montreal : Eskimos 17, Alouettes 9
1978 – 66th Grey Cup @ Toronto : Eskimos 20, Alouettes 13
1977 – 65th Grey Cup @ Montreal : Alouettes 41, Eskimos 6
1975 – 63rd Grey Cup @ Calgary : Eskimos 9, Alouettes 8
1974 – 62nd Grey Cup @ Vancouver : Alouettes 20, Eskimos 7
1956 – 44th Grey Cup @ Toronto : Eskimos 50, Alouettes 27
1955 – 43rd Grey Cup @ Vancouver : Eskimos 34, Alouettes 19
1954 – 42nd Grey Cup @ Toronto : Eskimos 26, Alouettes 25

2005 – 93rd Grey Cup @ Vancouver : Result TBD

A lot of those games are not that close. I mean there not blowouts but there not close either. Im hoping for a close game myself. Much more exciting. What aobut the rest of you?

I want a MTL blowout
My finger nails wont take anything close

41-6 is a blowout
50-27 is a blowout as well
Its a blowout tie

I remember the 9-8 game
Montreal marches down field to give Don Sweet a Field Goal chip shot and Joe Barnes mishandles the snap.

wel yes i agree that 41-6 is a blowout and that 50-27 is as well. But I was just talking of the games in general. Those were the 2 exceptions to the blowouts. A lot of them were not close at the same time as well (also there are some exceptions LOL) im hoping for lets say a 28-28 tie until the last few minutes of the game when Montrals Defence picks a pass off and takes it to the house. Or a fumble.

I thought I heard that this is the 14th Grey Cup meeting between Edmonton-Montreal with Edmonton leading 8-5 (it sounds a little better than 7-3!). But either way, Montreal has some catching up to do. Those were some great battles in the 70's.

I remember that 9-8 game too ro1313, when Barnes screwed up the hold on the last second winning field goal attempt! Some things stay with you, unfortunately!

Actually was it Barnes or Jones?

Barns I think
I got that info from the ALS page.
It might be 14 but they only posted the last 10

I couldn't find any other Montreal-Edmonton Grey Cup games, so sorry I don't know what I thought I heard. I guess it is 7-3 for Edmonton so far.

But looking back at the Als stats, I believe it was Jimmy Jones that screwed up the winning field goal in 1975, Joe Barnes joined the Als in 1976.

You could be right

And what I remember the most from those 70's battles was the 41-6 Montreal win in 1977. That was the famous staplegun game.
The big O didn't have a roof yet after the 76 Olympics, and it was freezing in that place and the footing bad. There was 68000 or so fans.
At half time, Montreal's Tony Proudfoot sees a hydro worker or Bell worker using a staplegun, and decides he will shoot staples into the bottom of his shoes, and the other Als followed, and they had better traction than Edmonton. Marv Levy was the coach then, and years later he claimed he never knew about the staples!

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Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 10:00PM


When the Edmonton Eskimos and Montreal Alouettes take the field in the 93rd Grey Cup this Sunday at BC Place Stadium in Vancouver, they will match a North American professional sports standard by meeting in a league final for the 11th time.

Only Major League Baseball's New York Yankees and Los Angeles/Brooklyn Dodgers have matched this feat, meeting in the World Series 11 times between 1941 and 1981. The Yankees lead the all-time series between the clubs 8-3.

Basketball's Boston Celtics and Los Angeles/Minneapolis Lakers are one shy of the mark, playing in 10 NBA Finals against each other. The Celtics have defeated the Lakers eight times.

The Eskimos have defeated the Alouettes seven times in the Grey Cup, losing just three times to the Alouettes. Their last meeting was in 2003 when the Eskimos defeated the Alouettes 34-22 in Regina.

The following is a look at the major North American sports leagues and the most meetings for their particular championships.

CFL - Grey Cup (11 meetings)
Edmonton Eskimos vs. Montreal Alouettes
1954 - Edmonton Eskimos 26, Montreal Alouettes 25
1955 - Edmonton Eskimos 34, Montreal Alouettes 19
1956 - Edmonton Eskimos 50, Montreal Alouettes 27
1974 - Montreal Alouettes 20, Edmonton Eskimos 7
1975 - Edmonton Eskimos 9, Montreal Alouettes 8
1977 - Montreal Alouettes 41, Edmonton Eskimos 6
1978 - Edmonton Eskimos 20, Montreal Alouettes 13
1979 - Edmonton Eskimos 17, Montreal Alouettes 9
2002 - Montreal Alouettes 25, Edmonton Eskimos 16
2003 - Edmonton Eskimos 34, Montreal Alouettes 22
2005 - Edmonton Eskimos vs. Montreal Alouettes
MLB - World Series (11 meetings)
New York Yankees vs. Los Angeles/Brooklyn Dodgers
1941 - New York Yankees 4, Brooklyn Dodgers 1
1947 - New York Yankees 4, Brooklyn Dodgers 3
1949 - New York Yankees 4, Brooklyn Dodgers 1
1952 - New York Yankees 4, Brooklyn Dodgers 3
1953 - New York Yankees 4, Brooklyn Dodgers 2
1955 - Brooklyn Dodgers 4, New York Yankees 3
1956 - New York Yankees 4, Brooklyn Dodgers 3
1963 - Los Angeles Dodgers 4, New York Yankees 0
1977 - New York Yankees 4, Los Angeles Dodgers 2
1978 - New York Yankees 4, Los Angeles Dodgers 2
1981 - Los Angeles Dodgers 4, New York Yankees 2
NBA - NBA Finals (10 meetings)
Boston Celtics vs. Los Angeles/Minneapolis Lakers
1959 - Boston Celtics 4, Minneapolis Lakers 0
1962 - Boston Celtics 4, Los Angeles Lakers 3
1963 - Boston Celtics 4, Los Angeles Lakers 2
1965 - Boston Celtics 4, Los Angeles Lakers 1
1966 - Boston Celtics 4, Los Angeles Lakers 3
1968 - Boston Celtics 4, Los Angeles Lakers 2
1969 - Boston Celtics 4, Los Angeles Lakers 3
1984 - Boston Celtics 4, Los Angeles Lakers 3
1985 - Los Angeles Lakers 4, Boston Celtics 2
1987 - Los Angeles Lakers 4, Boston Celtics 2
NHL - Stanley Cup (7 meetings)
Montreal Canadiens vs. Boston Bruins
1930 - Montreal Canadiens 2, Boston Bruins 0
1946 - Montreal Canadiens 4, Boston Bruins 1
1953 - Montreal Canadiens 4, Boston Bruins 1
1957 - Montreal Canadiens 4, Boston Bruins 1
1958 - Montreal Canadiens 4, Boston Bruins 2
1977 - Montreal Canadiens 4, Boston Bruins 0
1978 - Montreal Canadiens 4, Boston Bruins 2
Toronto Maple Leafs vs. Detroit Red Wings
1936 - Detroit Red Wings 3, Toronto Maple Leafs 1
1942 - Toronto Maple Leafs 4, Detroit Red Wings 3
1945 - Toronto Maple Leafs 4, Detroit Red Wings 3
1948 - Toronto Maple Leafs 4, Detroit Red Wings 0
1949 - Toronto Maple Leafs 4, Detroit Red Wings 0
1963 - Toronto Maple Leafs 4, Detroit Red Wings 1
1964 - Toronto Maple Leafs 4, Detroit Red Wings 3
NFL - NFL Championship (6 meetings)
Chicago Bears vs. New York Giants
1933 - Chicago Bears 23, New York Giants 21
1934 - New York Giants 30, Chicago Bears 13
1941 - Chicago Bears 37, New York Giants 9
1946 - Chicago Bears 24, New York Giants 14
1956 - New York Giants 47, Chicago Bears 7
1963 - Chicago Bears 14, New York Giants 10
NFL - Super Bowl (3 meetings)
Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Dallas Cowboys
1975 - Pittsburgh Steelers 21, Dallas Cowboys 17
1978 - Pittsburgh Steelers 35, Dallas Cowboys 31
1995 - Dallas Cowboys 27, Pittsburgh Steelers 17

MLB is counting Brooklyn and L.A. as the same team

I think that a few of my NYC friends (inculding myself) would disagree with that.

Esks-Als rivalry simmers 51 years

  • JACK TODD, The Gazette

Published: Sunday, November 27, 2005

It is a rivalry as nasty as it is one-sided: the Alouettes and Eskimos in the Grey Cup. For Montreal fans whose memories go back to the 1950s, it means years of bitterness leavened with a rare win for the Als.

If the Alouettes are in the Grey Cup, chances are their opponent will be the Edmonton Eskimos. When the two teams meet this afternoon at B.C. Place, it will be Montreal's 14th appearance in the CFL classic - and the 11th time they have faced Edmonton.

The rivalry has been marked by controversial plays, controversial games - and dominance by the Eskimos, who have won seven of the previous meetings between these two teams.

No single game, however, not even the Alouettes' bitter loss in the 1954 classic, stirs memories on both sides like the Staple Game of 1977. Edmonton head coach Danny Maciocia made the first mention of the Staple Game this week: The Italian-born Maciocia grew up in St. Leonard and was one of 60,000 fans who braved a frigid day to trek to the Big O during a transit strike, the largest crowd in the history of the Canadian Football League.

"My father always pointed out the Italian players," Maciocia said.

The Als of that era had some good ones: Wally Buono (now coach of the B.C. Lions, defeated by Maciocia's Eskimos in the West Final this year), Peter Dalla Riva and Gerry Dattilio.

"I hated the Eskimos and the player I hated the most was that linebacker, No. 42." That would be Dan Kepley, the best linebacker of his era in the CFL, now Maciocia's close friend, defensive assistant and linebackers coach.

"I still get on him about that 1977 game," Maciocia said. "He keeps telling me Montreal only won because of the staple. I tell him, 'hey, you lost 41-6. It had to be more than the staples.' "

Was it? Former Alouettes defensive halfback Tony Proudfoot, now a colour commentator for the Alouettes games on CJAD radio, was the player who made a legend of an electrician's staple gun.

"Everybody knew we were going to have a problem with traction on that field," Proudfoot said. "We were trying all kinds of things. We tried broomball shoes and shoes with steel-tipped cleats. Some guys were filing them to a sharp point.

"I even tried driving nails through my shoes from the inside out, just so they would poke through about half an inch. But as soon as I saw those I thought, 'oh-oh, those could be dangerous.' And besides, every time you stepped on them the nail was driven back into your foot."

Proudfoot was on the field with Chuck Zapiec and Dickie Harris when he saw an electrician with a staple gun walk by (crews were always working on the Big O in those days, even the day of the Grey Cup game) and he was struck with an inspiration. "It was one of those big industrial staple guns. I asked if we could borrow it. We went in the locker room and put an 'X' in the bottom of about 10 cleats with those staples.

"Zapiec did it with me. We went out to the part of the field that was the slipperiest and we tried it put out sideways. Normally you'd slip but we could put a foot out and stop."

By game time, 10 or 12 Montreal players had staples in their cleats. As the game went on and other Alouettes realized the staples were the key to traction, the equipment managers worked without pause to fit staples into cleats.

No one can really say whether the staples made the difference. Both sides were also contending with a chemical placed on the field to melt the ice; the ice remained but the chemical made the ball so slippery that both sides lost fumble after fumble. But for a football player, the ability to stop and change direction when his opponent is slipping and sliding can be decisive.

After the lopsided Montreal win there were all kinds of rumours: Someone had sent prostitutes to the rooms of the Edmonton players the night before the game; the Eskimos lost the battle of Crescent St. and partied too much.

The Staple Game gave the Als some small measure of revenge for years of frustration.

John X. Cooper, my friend and host in Vancouver this week, still squirms at the memory of the 1954 Grey Cup: Cooper was newly arrived in Canada that November, having come from Greece by way of England. He got caught up in football fever (he would later play running-back and linebacker for McGill and Queens) and was an excited 10-year-old in front of the flickering black-and-white television set when Sam Etcheverry's Alouettes took on Jackie Parker's Eskimos in Toronto.

The Alouettes were leading 25-20 and appeared ready to put it away when Chuck Hunsinger fumbled at the Eskimo 20-yard line; Parker scooped up the ball and ran 90 yards the other way: Eskimos 26, Alouettes 25. Even Etcheverry is still bitter about that one 51 years later.

That 1954 game was the birth of this great rivalry. In the 1955 Grey Cup in Vancouver, Edmonton beat the Als 34-19. In 1956, back in Toronto, it was Edmonton 50, Montreal 27.

The Alouettes would not return to the Grey Cup until 1970, when, with Etcheverry coaching and Sonny Wade at quarterback, they defeated the Calgary Stampeders in Toronto, 23-10, to win their first Grey Cup since 1949.

Then came the Levy powerhouse of the 1970s: A 20-7 victory over Edmonton in the 1974 Grey Cup, an excruciating 9-8 loss to the Eskimos in 1975 when kicker Don Sweet missed a short field goal that would have won it.

After Levy went to the Kansas City Chiefs following the Staple Game victory, the inept Joe Scanella took over and began the process of dismantling the Alouettes that would end with the franchise going out of business for a decade. The Als lost to the Eskimos again in the Grey Cup in 1978 and 1979 and did not return to the game until 2000, when they lost to the B.C. Lions.

In 2002, head coach Don Matthews - in his first season in Montreal after leaving Edmonton under a cloud - led the Alouettes to a 25-16 win in Edmonton, their first Grey Cup victory since the Staple Game in 1977. In 2003, however, the Eskimos won in Regina, 34-22.

Today's game will be the rubber match of this era, with enough subplots for a Dickens novel: Matthews cordially detests Eskimos president Hugh Campbell. Two of Edmonton's leaders on defence, Steve Charbonneau and Davis Sanchez, once played for the Als.

And Alouette fans young and old all have memories of bitter defeats at the hands of the Eskimos. Today they will either get a measure of revenge - or another frustrating defeat to nurture through the decades.

© The Gazette (Montreal) 2005