You lighten up as well.
Nowhere did I say it was malicious. You missed my point that it didn’t address the issue being discussed, namely the hit. It just made a derogatory comment about Bomber fans. I couldn’t care less about that but you know you are losing the argument when that is all you got.
Seeing myself out of this self serving thread as well. No hope of objectivity here.
Thanks Jon.
what is the point of this topic?
Ask a cherry picker, GG.
Debating 101. Good class. Taught us how to debate without getting over-heated. Debate need not be an argument, nevertheless, Jon is right about it being time to move on.
Love your concise replies.
Well, if anyone should be wearing one of those safety caps during the game, I would think just common sense would be for zack to put one on for his own good.
good point ed. I have been “preaching” same for years. Realistically, if it were any other QB, I doubt he would have missed a play. But Zach is vulnerable. I fear that he won’t even need another hit to the head…maybe just falling down hard could trigger another concussion. I hope that doesn’t happen. Do you remember the sad scene where Dickenson took a hit…then wandered to the sideline while picking up imaginary change/coins off the field. The guys who were watching with me were watching and laughing, almost gleefully. I chewed them out. Sure, I am a Rider fan, but I am also a football fan, so I don’t want to see anyone get injured. That was a sad scene.
Trying to salvage the reputation of a known head hunter.
known to whom?
I have always felt that “intent” is a red herring … it is something that cannot ever truly be known, and too often an excuse to not punish a player … but I-M-O, regardless of intent, plays such as that being discussed show a reckless disregard by the hitting player for the potential impact of their actions on the player being hit … and, should be punished SEVERELY … better to “over punish” and make other players think about future actions.
Penalties should fit the “crime.” “over-punished” should not appear in any segment of society, whether we are talking about criminal, schoolyard, traffic enforcement, civil…no place. It makes me think back to school days when a whole class is made to stay late after school due to the misbehaviour of one or two students…grossly unfair to the majority.
Yeah, I try not to go down the rabbit hole of endless subjective debate.
Poor choise of words perhaps, originally had “SEVERELY” … hopefully you were able to infer what I meant was that to promote player safety/health, it is was better to err on the side of severity than having lesser penalties make suspensions become “just a risk” accepted to get the BIG, highlight reel hit.
From where I am sitting, I think there should be a MAJOR shift in the rules, to enhance player safety. There should be an emphasis on unnecessary roughness. Look at how many receivers have been injured. There has been much talk about vulnerable QBs. But a defender should not be allowed to “light up” a receiver who is even more vulnerable than a QB when he goes goes up to get a high pass. Sure, a defender should be allowed to hit him as the ball arrives, but not at full speed.
I’ve often thought that about Katsantonis of the Cats. He is a master of taking free shots at receivers who are fully exposed.
Worst part of those hits, often correctly referred to as widowmakers: even if the ball is overthrown, or dopped, the defender still gets a free shot. Unnecessary means just that. So…anywhere…any time…any place…the rule should be applied more liberally. There is zero reason for drilling a guy’s head into the ground, or falling on top of a pile. Sure, there are piling on penalties, or spearing…but not enough…and sometimes after a guy crosses the goal line he gets lit up.
Heard that, sackatz.
Another guy who sometimes takes liberties is the Riders’ Dalke. I am not sure why he is often a healthy scratch because he is a good tackler, and has great pursuit to the ball. But he could avoid some bang-bang plays when he lights up a receiver just after a dropped ball…or when a ball-carrier is in the grasp. He did get called for hits when a receiver just reaches the chalk, on his way out. No need for destroying the guy.
Stipley, you correctly fingered Katsantonis. He is taking up where Simoni left off. Some posts put Brown and Awe in the same sentence, which isn’t at all fair, but Simoni was in a class all by himself. I don’t understand how he wasn’t suspended repeatedly for all his outrageous, dirty, shots. He did a Moreno impersonation every year, and sometimes several times a year.