I was wondering if somebody could explain to me the process of play-calling. Here are my questions?
When Porter or Glenn look on their armband are they following a sequential script that the offensive co-ordinator has devised, or are they deciding on their own what will happen? Do they have a bunch of plays that they can choose by their own free will depending on the down or yardage required?
Here's an example. What about when it's 2nd & 10 and Porter throws a really long sideline pass to Rodriguez for 4 yards. Who called that play? Why not gun for Bruce or Davis up the middle for a quick 12 yards. When Porter comes to the sideline does MB ask him "What the hell were you thinking?".
What about the choice of plays for Porter? Is his playbook simplified because of his inability to quickly read what's developing in the receiver routes. We've all seen him hesitate in the pocket even with adequate protection. When Glenn replaced Porter against Montreal he had that drive where in 5 or 6 passes he marched the Cats from deep in their own zone right to the dropped Pavlovic end-zone pass. That was a very impressive drive, but does Glenn use a more advanced playbook based on his experience or abilities?
I would love to hear what kind of chatter goes on in the huddles? Can anybody shed some light on the whole process?
okay so the way the arm band works is that the OC will call a few numbers like 23-41-76. Now usually one of these numbers are dumby numbers so for this example lets say the first one is. This means that the other two are translated into a play. So, the first number (41) will translate to a formation call (i.e. trips left, eye) and then the nest number will corrispond with a play name (for example 32 Zoro) and when you put that together the play is trips left, eye, 32 Zoro.
Also, in regards to that down and distance chart you were talking about. the OC and the HC will have a sheet that has plays for each down and distance.
For the play calling they will call play for either glenn or porter based on their skills but i suspect they will call the same plays for both because the routes should work for both. they just make different reads
Well…they would have some flexibilty on the assignment of hot routes based on the defensive front, I would think. There has to be a minimum adjustment allowable as part of the entire pass protection rubric, otherwise this IS high school. LMAO Built-in route adjustments can exist on a play, but the QB should have the authority to dictate the route he wants the hot receiver to run!
from my understanding for High School, OVFL, and NOw getting to Mac, our plays have predeterminded pass routes (on pass and run), but comunication between the WR and QB is always good because you can audible to change routes based on motions of the QB and how the QB reads the DBs coverage style.
but obviously they may do things a bit different in the Pro’s. i have not played on a pro team yet, so i cant say 100%. But my explenation is still the basics and give a better idea of how the armband is used.
Some Teams use a Color Code and Number System
This What I use the Wrist Band For with My Guys
so I'll call Red Right 28
The QB Looks that up on Wrist Band
They See it a Run Play to Right thew 8 Hole
They'll Then Call the Full Play Name Red Right 28
This Simple Play call
They Pro Name are bit Longer there More Verbiage
Why has the CFL not put communication devices in the QB's helmets? Not only would it eliminate all the signals from the sidelines but should help them to get the plays off faster, thus more plays and more for the fans.
How come we run the same stupid plays then? We run 2 formations, a bunch and a spread. That’s it. We have a vanilla offense and it’s very frustrating.
We aren’t blowing teams out. When we win, we just win, no matter if it is Porter or Glenn. Our offense goes down the field 2 times per game. We go underneath all the time. We abandon the running game when it gets stopped a few times.
Our playbook might be thick but we don’t use more than 2 pages.
How come we run the same stupid plays then? We run 2 formations, a bunch and a spread. That's it. We have a vanilla offense and it's very frustrating.
We aren't blowing teams out. When we win, we just win, no matter if it is Porter or Glenn. Our offense goes down the field 2 times per game. We go underneath all the time. We abandon the running game when it gets stopped a few times.
Our playbook might be thick but we don't use more than 2 pages.
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You are soooooooo right!
How about some deep routes and some screen passes when the QB is in trouble?
You are soooooooo right!
How about some deep routes and some screen passes when the QB is in trouble?
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The Team is taking what there Getting
Alot Team are Running 2 and 3 Deep zones
Your not going to get to many Deep balls past them.
So you take what get
Our Offence is based on Kind of a West coast Type system
That alot of passes 5 to 20 yards .
That Short and Mid Range Passing
Montreal Run a Very Close System to this one.
Anything more 20 yards is due to yac (yards after Catch)
The Team is taking what there Getting
Alot Team are Running 2 and 3 Deep zones
Your not going to get to many Deep balls past them.
So you take what get
Our Offence is based on Kind of a West coast Type system
That alot of passes 5 to 20 yards .
That Short and Mid Range Passing
Montreal Run a Very Close System to this one.
Anything more 20 yards is due to yac (yards after Catch)
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To me that is their defense dictating the plays that we run. It’s our offense that should be dictating what their defense does. That’s how successful offenses in the CFL work.
We have a dink and dunk offense and we take the 5 yard underneath routes because we have nothing that stretches the field and we abandon the running game early in the game so the defenses can just sit back and not let anyone get behind them.
I could probably scheme against the Cats offense. It’s not hard.
We don’t go deep, our receivers don’t get open, we don’t run the ball enough, Chris Davis drops the ball to kill drives, on 2nd and 8 our receivers run 5 yard patterns.
You wonder why we are barely winning games.
A good offense can blow away opponents. We aren’t doing that. For your argument that Glenn should be starting, even when he has played, he hasn’t taken the game over and blown it wide open.
A successful offense will take what the defense shows and exploits it.
Our problem is that we don’t game plan right in the first halves of games on both offense and defense but we are able to make adjustments in the second half.
Our offense isn’t going to be spectacular until we get a better OC and MB doesn’t have his hands on the playbook.
We have won 4 games. Porter has played well, Glenn has played well, the offense has played well and the defense has been great when we need stops.
Our offense will only become great once the playbook is opened up and we start dictating the game plan.
Can anybody shed some light on the whole process?