Okay, so the Lions won't be winning the Division Title

The Lions were outplayed in tonight's game against Calgary. I knew that if Cornish were given free reign then he could be expected to do a lot of damage. He did, 130 yards worth! What is it going to take to stop this guy?

Full marks to the Lions for fighting back and tying the game. Shame on the refs for missing that very obvious contacting the kicker [McCallum] infraction. I rarely jump on the refs but a person would have to be either drunk or blind to miss that one. lol

The Stamps were worthy of the win tonight. They were definitely the better team. I'm not sure why some people are so critical of Glenn. I thought he played a darn good game tonight.

Interesting when Tate reamed out Cornish on a botched hand off earlier in the game. Tate surely must know where the cameras are focused. Even if Cornish messed up, tell him in private, not in front of everyone. Tate has to smarten up because sure enough his day will come when he messes up.

I want to see the Lions host a play off game. Hopefully they will finish ahead of SSK. That will make for a great Semi-Final and then it would be off to Calgary. Let's hope the Eskies help the Lions out tomorrow by beating SSK.

Though the Lions lost tonight I think they can take Calgary in a Western Final match up...IF... Harris can produce right out of the gate. They will need to prove this by beating Calgary on November 01. Although I dare say that that game may mean more to the Lions in determining home field advantage for the Semi-Final game than the game will mean to Calgary who will likely already have 1st place sewn up. This could mean that Calgary will not be giving its all or it may rest some key players to prevent possible injury.

Can't argue with that post, Beag. BC inexplicably came out flat in a huge game, just as they did the week before. they couldn't move the ball at all for the first 20 minutes and couldn't tackle mmy grandma in the first half. You can't play a 35-minute game against the top team in the league and expect to come away with a win, especially on the road. Whie the offensive line, with Vali back at right guard, failed to open enough holes for the running backs but kept Demarco vertical and gave the BC pivot enough to make plays most of the time. At least a partial victory for the fa guys with the bellies floping over their belts.

Demarco missed three throws in a row to open the game and the offence went two-and out on their first three possessions. That allowed Calgary to get an early 10-0 advantage and putting BC in a hole it took another 45 minutes to get out of. Paul McCallum mishit a punt that gave Calgary good field position, which led to the Stamps first TD. #4 was late getting onto the field, which may have rushed his punt and caused it to go into the endzone, rather than his usual pinning Calgary deep. In the first quarter the run game was a disaster: 62 yars foe the Stamps and a pathetic 3 for BC The BC defense seemed more interested in causing fumbles than wrapping up ball carriers, which cost them at least one sack and numerous missed tackles. They were much better in the second half, so you have o wonder why they didn't make te changes the made a qarter earlier. A better start and BC might have made it close at the end, maybe even steal a win. Parks dropped a pick that could have gone for a TD in the first quarter, on a drive that led to Calgary's first points of the game.

Mistakes continued to hurt the Lions in the second half, though less frequently than the first half. Moore dropped an easy one ihe fourth quarter near the sideline, yet another lapse in concentration by the BC receiver. Harris let a ball slip right through his fingers. Chris Wilson lined up offside on a second down whee the Lions stopped the Stamps offence and gave them a first down instead of forcing a punt. Elimimian was flagged on a second down play where he hit the Calgary QB perhaps a bit high, a questionable call for roughing the passer which led to a fourth quarter Stamps major. Several times our receivers ran four yard patterns on second and seven and were tackled short of the first down, killing drives. Basic errors of not knowing down and distance, pretty basic mistakes for a professional team. Shawn Gore didn't turn around soon enough and misses a ball thrown right at him, what would be an easy catch. For the first two quarters BC's linebackers were either putting themselves out of the play by rushing off the edge, basically guessing, or were too close to the D line and got picked off before getting a chance to scrape to the ball carrier. Throwing to the underneath guy is a dedent first down decision for Demarco. Make the same decision on second and long and you kill the drive most of the time.

BC's impressive second half momentum dried up after they tied the Stamps with about 7:40 left in the final quarter. After that BC failed to make good first down production, a problem that continues to plague this team after fifteen games. Fair to say that BC has lost all chance of attaining first place. They've all but guaranteed Calgary will get the western final in their house, pending the result of the Saskatchewan game this weekend.

Despite all these misssteps BC had a chance to tie it uplate in the fourth quarter. But Demarco misread a coverage and threw it right to the guy in the red shirt, who took it all the way to slam the door on a Bc comeback. .

I can't imagine what was, or maybe what wasn't going through the head referee's mine, who completely ignored a roughing the kicker penalty on a McCallum punt and flagged Elimimian on a questionable tackle of Kevin Glenn late in the fourth quarter that would have give BC the ball with about 4:30 left, instead of 2:25. Instead, Calgary gets a cheap first down they don't deserve and eventually scored a touchdown to break the tie.

So the question remains: how much of these mistakes are due to execution errorsand how many are due to poor offensive coaching/play calling? I'd say it's about 85 percent poor execution, 15% a very conservative offensive coordinator, who often seems to take three or four offensive possessions to address parts of his gameplan that aren't working.

I thought Ian Smart, Nik Moore and Adam Bighill were the best Lions on the night, and Jason Arakgi gets an honourable mention for being a demon on the cover teams. BC has another opportunity to right the ship in Mosaic next Friday, in a game that wiBC's second half momentum dried up after they tied the Stamps with about 7:40 left in the final quarter. After that BC failed to make good first down production, a problem that continues to plague this team after fifteen games. Fair to say that BC has lost all chance of attaining first place. They've all but guaranteed Calgary will get the western final in their house, pending the result of the Saskatchewan game this weekend.robably determine the final standings in the werstern conference. Lets hope they can start stronger and for once, play from a lead.

Dooger in Surrey :cowboy:

I'm very surprised that Stubler didn't change his playcalling and formation to shut down Cornish. You rush four guys against Calgary's O-line, with Gibson in charge of it, Dickenson calling the plays, and Cornish carrying the ball? You're basically asking to get torched. Cornish was usually into the next level of defenders before anyone even touched him. I like Cornish a lot. He's a fantastic RB, but he's not that good. If you get penetration on the line, you'll stop him in the backfield or for minimal gain just like any other running back...

No doubt BC will be playing a playoff game on the road and if it's cold there, they will be screwed. They could have easily been first this year, but chose not to.

The odds are pretty good but can you believe that mathematically the Lions could still finish off in 1st place, unbelievable as that would seem?

If I'm not mistaken B.C. would need to beat Calgary in its next meeting by 19 points and of course win its other two remaining games. By beating SSK, the Lions would take the series against SSK. By beating Calgary by at least 19 points the Lions would take that series as well.

Now, of course Calgary would have to lose all 3 of its remaining games, the last one being against the Lions. That final season game for the Lions on November 01 could be an incredibly significant game because it could determine whether the Lions host the Western Final by taking top spot. The irony is that the Lions could win the game and still end up in 2nd place.

By beating SSK and winning their other 2 games the Lions take 2nd place. If the Stamps for some inexplicable reason lose their games against SSK and Edmonton then it would come down to November 01 at B.C. Place to see who ends up in 1st place. Unbelievable as that seems. lol

It is beginning to look like that interception DeMarco threw in the dying minutes of the game against Calgary the other night may have done more damage than just giving the Lions a loss. Calgary has won 2 of its 4 meetings against the Lions. The Lions have won 1. Calgary holds an 18 point lead in total points scored thus the reason the Lions would not only have to beat Calgary on November 01 but they would have to do it by at least 19 points. That is a pretty tall order but factor in a key injury or two for Calgary, a possible slump [remember they have to lose both previous games], Lulay returning, Logan possibly make a positive impact and who knows? :rockin:

Beaglehound the eternal optimist. :roll:

Beag, the only way BC can get first is to win the last three games and Calgary lose all three. And score more total points than Calgary, which seems unachievable because BC trails the Stamps by 65 points after 15 games.

A Calgary win plus a Saskatchewan/BC loss this Friday and Calgary gets to watch BC and the Riders beat the crap out of each other in a gale in Mosaic in the semi-final. If BC some how wins this week in Regina and beats both the Stamps and Edmonton, and the Riders lose two of the next three, BC would be tied with the Riders at 24 points and the Lions would get second place by winning the season series.

If we lose on Friday, Sask will be up four points with two games to play an clinch second, rendering the Edmonton and Calgary games irrelevant to the final standings. BC could have really helped their cause the last two weeks but came out flat, playing catchup for most of both games. Their road record is third in the West, not good enough to host a playoff game and put a lot of loonies into Braley's wallet.

You think that's bad? Just think about which of our quarterbacks that we've developed for up to about 35 games, and perhaps five or six or other starters/impact players we might lose to the ... ugh ... RedBlacks, (I freakin' hate that name) in the expansion draft. Its only about 65 days away, on December 16th. Fifty to sixty CFL players will get their area code changed against their will, a special form of employer abuse. Those guys (and their families) will be treated little better than like beef carcasses in a meat truck, on the road to the Abattoir. Ugh.

Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind seeing coaches also get drafted against their will. Maybe Chappy could get picked up by Ottawa, therein guaranteeing Ottawa predictable play-calling and a mediocre run game for at least the next few years. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Dooger in Surrey :cowboy:

Beag, the only way BC can get first is to win the last three games and Calgary lose all three.

I don't think it is as simple as the Lions winning all 3 remaining games one of which includes Calgary. The most points the Lions could end up with is 24 in the standings...right where Calgary is currently. To wit they would be tied with Calgary and that is where it gets complicated. I'll explain later.

And score more total points than Calgary, because BC trails the Stamps by 65 points after 15 games.

I don't think that is correct either because I don't think that is the criteria used to break ties until several other criteria have been applied, but I also stand corrected in my take on how I thought a tie would be settled between Calgary and the Lions and here is the reason why: Look what I found... [Number 3 appears to be most relevant should Calgary and the Lions end up tied at the end of the season, so I've highlighted it.]...

"When two or more member Clubs are tied in the final Division standings at the conclusion of the regular season schedule, preferential ranking for playoff purposes shall be determined on the basis of the following descending-order priorities and shall be awarded to the Club that:

  1. has won the greater number of games played against all member Clubs of the League,
    then,
  2. has the higher winning percentage in all games played against all of the other tied Club(s),
    then,
  3. has scored the higher net aggregate of points (i.e. points scored for less points scored against) in all games played against all of the other tied Club(s),
    then,
  4. has scored the higher net quotient of points (i.e. points scored for divided by points scored against) in all games played against all of the other tied Club(s),
    then,
  5. has the higher winning percentage in all games played against all member Clubs of the Division,
    then,
  6. has scored the higher net aggregate of points in games played against all member Clubs of the Division,
    then,
  7. has scored the higher quotient of points in games played against all member Clubs of the Division,
    then,
  8. has scored the higher net aggregate of points in games played against all member Clubs of the League,
    then,
  9. has scored the higher net quotient of points in games played against all member Clubs of the League,
    then,
  10. has won a coin toss against the other tied Club.

Note: If two Clubs remain tied after other Club(s) are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step a)."