official #73 gets game ball

Beating a dead horse is one of my character flaws :wink: . Yes it was a great game and 7 -1 is MUCH better than 4 - 4. Of course there still are another 10 games to play this season. I’m not saying that my team will be ahead of yours in November, although it is possible, just that wins in July and August never are as important as wins in November. :wink:

I might as well chime in too. The only penalty I ws upset about was the non-call for the no yards on the Thigpen return. My beef is also directed at TSN as it seemded that only Thigpen and myself were aware of the no yards.

I sat there thinking…well okay…yelling about the non call and if I recall the TSN announcers rambled on about something else altogether and seemed oblivious to what had occurred. There was no replay shown and so I was left wondering if maybe i was seeing things. I guess I should have watched the game on the PVR so I couild rewind and replay it.

As for Bo…turn your friggin head and peek once in a while!! An earlier post made mention of a ā€œface guardingā€ penalty. I’m not up on rules although I thought it would have been called ā€œscreeningā€, but nevertheless it amounts to the same in the end.

Problem is, Chamblin is coaching them to do exactly what they’re doing, ie: not look back for the ball, and rather watch the receiver’s eyes use that to judge when to put your hand up and try to break up the play. It’s been mentioned in the Spectator at least a couple of times. That technique is just screaming for PI calls.

Wow, I missed the game but 27 penalties in a game…what a joke…and it is called professional football? It appears that the refs were the main players and the teams were just there for the ride.

Let me see if I understand..

A Ticat fan makes a thread on the Ticat board about the refs in the game and we get flooded with bomber fans trying to tell us their delusions as reality.

These Ticat fans didn't come to your board and troll this out at you yet you all choose to flood in here and troll. Do you need help finding your way back to your own forum? The door is right there..

Yes there is something that prevents this. It’s called the rule.

Just to clarify, the phrase ā€œthere is nothing that prevents a defender to not turn his head, but to focus on the receivier and when he sees the ball reach the receivers hands, to then dislodge and strip itā€ is perfectly within the rules - BUT that is not what happened. If you put your hands in front of the receivers face to distract him from making a catch that IS interference. The defender is entitled to go for the ball (which does mean actually looking towards the ball) but is NOT entitled to do what happened in this case.

In the rulebook, face guarding and screening are the same thing.

Screening (face guarding) of an opponent during an attempt to catch the ball is pass interference.

Emotional games usually mean more penalties. Perhaps you should actually watch the game before critisizing.

:thup:

Did you stop to consider the other side of the coin here? Such as, just maybe there were in fact 27 penalties that deserved to be called? The ā€œjokeā€ would be if there were 27 infractions and the refs kept their flags in their pockets and didn’t call the penalties.

Relax Zenstate.

It's been so long for them, it's their insecurity talking.

If a Winnipeg team wins a game and nobody notices....did they really win.

After re-watching the game, I would say that all of the penalties called were deserved, with the only possible exception being the procedure call on Baggs on the field goal attempt near the end of Q2. I didn’t see any movement, but I wasn’t watching in HD so maybe there was a slight head-bob or a flinch of the arm. It doesn’t take much to be called.

But those 27 penalties called didn’t include the many non-calls. By my count, there were nine other plays where there should have been penalties, and another seven with borderline infractions that could have been called. So it could have been a much worse flag-fest, with all of them deserved. Most of the non-calls wouldn’t have affected the game. But a couple right at the end definitely did.

IMO.

There was no flinch. If there had been, the play would have been whistled down immediately.
So it was some type of illegal formation.
The call was that he ā€œwas closing the lineā€. He was the 3rd man to the right of the centre, so he should have been the last man on the end of the line of scrimmage. I’m guessing he was too far back from the line, although you can’t tell from the camera angle behind the kicker.

Fair enough. Makes sense. So all 27 were deserved. Plus a bunch more.

I don't think this has been mentioned before:

On the Lobendahn strip of the ball from Chris Williams just outside the goal line ..... as he stripped the ball loose, Lobendahn also tackled Williams into the endzone. Williams then immediately moved to get back on his feet to recover his fumble and was then pushed, from behind (Lobendah's both hands on Williams' hips), straight back down to the ground by Lobendahn, allowing a couple of teammates (the first of whom came into the endzone from out of bounds) to get to the ball first. Clearly visible in the replay, with an up-close and unobstructed view of the interference is Official #73 who, by the rules, should have awarded Hamilton possession with a first down at the WPG 10 yd. line:

SECTION 4 – INTERFERENCE ON LOOSE BALL
Article 1
A player shall not deliberately interfere with an opponent attempting to recover a
loose ball following a blocked kick, a dribbled ball, a fumble or a wild snap from the
centre, an offside pass, an onside kick and a kick that does not cross the line of
scrimmage.
PENALTY: LB at PF
If foul occurs in the Goal Area, the ball shall be awarded to the non-offending team:
(a) at the 10-yard line, if the foul occurred in the offending team’s Goal Area or,
(b) at the 25-yard line, if the foul occurred in the non-offending team’s Goal Area.

That was one of the debatable (Black and Gold glasses) that I alluded to in my discussion with BlueBlood in the 3rd and 1 thread. As the push came close after the tackle, I figured it might not be called, although no argument that it could have been. But as it was debatable, I didn’t list it in my original list of definite missed penalties.

Lol!!! No worries. I can respect that. Beat away if ya like. Sorry I’ve been without power for a couple of days.

Anything is certainly possible, but every win does count. In the event that things tighten up in the east, winning the season series was very important.

Good catch ottawacat. I was sure after seeing the play live there was interference and it was confirmed after watching the replay… why wasn’t a penalty called as the Bomber knowingly and deliberately prevented Williams from going after the loose ball.

It makes the situation all that much worse if #73 ā€œmissedā€ such an obvious penalty in the open field and it was most certainly a score influencer, whether 3 or 7 more for the TiCats.

Makes you question his competence and/or neutrality.

  1. Kent never touched the ball;
  2. Even if he had touched it, it would have been legal because he had been blocked out of bounds by Stala - the change to the rule regarding illegal participation applies to all players - not just offensive players.

I wasn't able to edit my post so...

Regarding the play by Lobendahn after the strip, calling that a penalty is a huge stretch. You guys are really, really reaching now.

Who asked what you thought in the first place?

This thread was made on the Ticat board by Ticat fans. If we wanted to know what Bomber fans thought we would go troll on your board like you are on ours.

No reach at all.

If you look at the replay without blue & gold coloured glasses, it clearly shows that Lobendahn grabbed Williams by the hips and pulled him back after he saw the ball had been fumbled. He deliberately prevented Williams from going after a loose ball and should have been penalized… should have been TiCats ball on the ten.

Bombers lost a lot of close games last year, some of which they should have won.

Conversely, the stars have aligned for them this year and they’ve won some close games they didn’t deserve to win. The last game was a gift and one of them.

And zenstate… be nice.

If Bomber fans want to come here while they whistle past the grave yard, let them. They know deep down they got away with one (and more) this year and Bomber’s luck may not last… look at Edmonton :slight_smile: