More Beer ? I think you were coming from a fans perspective there but,seriously,it is a factor.The more transit options you have,the more beer they can sell.And,at $7-$10 a beer,that's not chump change.
I like the Sir John A site as well, but sadly it's a triangular land parcel and I don't think it has enough space. You'd have to pave over York or Cannon and that would make traffic in the core a nightmare, unless they somehow built a tunnel, under the stadium, which I don't think is likely. It would kind of be cool if they did build a sort of glass tunnel, that you could see traffic, from underneath the stands, give it a unique look/feature.
As far as where to move MacDonald if it did happen, Central Park makes more sense to me. What makes even more sense to me is over both of the parking lots at John, Catherine, Hughson, Wilson and Rebbeca. Have two wings of the school and link them with two of those link hallways that link over York Blvd and the Convention Center/Jackson square. I love those indoor walkway bridges and really feel they could be a defining trait/style to Hamilton's downtown architecture.
I really dislike those parking lots around this area, they just seem so out of place and excessive, and generate little in economic benefit, considering you have lots under Jackson Square, at King William, all along Bay, at City Hall...etc etc.
Yes, I was.
Beer is good.
:wink:I’m sure some sort of road enhancement/reconfiguration could take place, as it could with west harbour. ( Man, I wish the perimeter road idea was revived. What a transformational benefit that would be for the city, and the Tiger-Cats at the west harbour site.)
It would kind of be cool if they did build a sort of glass tunnel, that you could see traffic, from underneath the stands, give it a unique look/feature.That brings the whole notion of visibilty to a whole other level. :)
On the subject of transit,I have always felt that we need 24 hour GO service,to and from Toronto,every half hour.More people would use it if they knew it ran on a regular basis,without bus transfers,and with a GO station that is open 24-7.It would be nice to not even have to look at a schedule.Just go down to the GO station at any time,and go to Toronto,and vise versa.
I think that’s coming with the metrolinx plan some time in the future.
[i] Within 15 years, Lakeshore GO trains will run every 15 minutes at off-peak and every five minutes at peak times, he said.
“They won’t have to worry about a schedule, they can just show up at a station and have confidence that a train will be along relatively shortly,” MacIsaac said.[/i]
http://www.thespec.com/article/440254The Go extension makes sense. The Metrolinx proposal for LRT and 2 way street conversion is certain failure. I'll be trapped in my own neighborhood. The only possible plus is the possibility real estate prices will rise so I can sell I really don't believe that line and if there is a jump in prices I'll jump at leaving for a location that has a better transportation plan. I moved here to be near buses for when I retire. I will not board the LRT in the middle of the street because its unsafe. The streets will be impassable by auto. The bus system and one way streets are ideal. I hope to high heaven the funding never comes and destroys the only transportation system that is both public transit friendly and auto friendly AND pedestrian friendly. One way streets are the only reason I can walk across King or Main. 2 way streets will be much more dangerous. Spoken by a man that actually lives there
its easily hooked up to the walkway path at bay front park, right on the 403 for exposure, would have a close lrt stop on king st, the GO train goes right beside it so a stop could be put in. i know it needs a couple of exits from the 403 etc but just a thought. By the way it's between York and the 403. There's some soccer and baseball fields there now.
No! an LRT will not radically transform King or Main! It will never happen in a city like Hamilton, where there is not demand for one.
A city like Ottawa is desperate for more transit downtown but they are revisiting the LRT thing, they are talking about building a tunnel under the downtown and putting busses in there. You can get a lot of busses and a lot of bus only lanes for a $billion dollars.
An LRT is a very expensive waste of taxpayers mony. The cost is something like a billion dollars per mile, bus lines and express busses are the way to go. I know that its a “sexy” issue, “oh a train running downtown” “wow, it looks nice”
but who is going to come in form the suburbs park their car and jump on an LRT to nowhere. Or take a local bus to the edge of the downtown, get off and jump on an LRT??? An LRT wouldn’t even take you close to the Rheem site or west Harbour.
For one 3km long LRT line you could build a large stadium with a sliding roof and all the bells and whistles.
Get over it, it ain’t going to happen!
I've been saying all along and still think Mud st. and Hwy 20 the old Speedway Park location would be a good spot too. It's has lots of room for parking and that whole area is being built up as a commercial area too. It would easily have the best access for cars to get to and from the games. The HSR could increase buses for game days.
Is that on top of the dump??????
Based on what?
Did you not read my response last time you said that.
There is demand. I provided the proof with links and quotes. Did you read them?
I read them. There is no demand. I ride the buses. They work fine
The you must have missed this part. Here it is again.
[i]A consultants’ report into the economics of LRT in our city projected the system would need about 34,000 riders a weekday to break even on operations. The B-line from Eastgate Square to McMaster University – which is the city’s proposed corridor for an LRT line – affects four of the HSR’s major routes. Collectively, those routes add up to 25,000 to 30,000 trips a day. That’s not far off the break-even point.
The beauty of the equation is that those 25,000 to 30,000 trips are already there. There’s no need to convince those transit users of the benefits of public transit. If we build it, they will come[/i]
And again, this is not for now, and bus service that is fine now. It’s palnning for the future. Which, btw, is exactly the intent of the west harbour site. It’s about the future. That’s why the city’s $60m is coming from a fund called the future fund.
Based on current transportation trends, and projected growth, an additional 180,000 auto driver trips per day will need to be accommodated on our road network by 2031. Our infrastructure will not be able to accommodate these vehicle trips, so to reduce traffic congestion and the wear and tear on Hamilton’s roads, we’re planning now for the challenges and opportunities associated with growth
[url=http://www.hamilton.ca/NR/rdonlyres/B747B81C-4865-4C6E-8B85-3ACFF9037199/0/RapidTransitFrequentlyaskedquestionsJune08.pdf]http://www.hamilton.ca/NR/rdonlyres/B74 ... June08.pdf[/url]This is pretty funny. Kirk, I can just see the steam coming out your ears!!!
I didn't miss it, I know from regular use that there is no demand for more than the bus service we enjoy. I read the Metrolinx report from from start to finish at least 6 times to try to understand it. I concluded that it was a bunch of BS based on an assumption that 2 way street conversion would destroy car traffic travel leaving public transit as the only alternative. Not one single word was said about the status quo actually. I for one don't believe the population assumptions either. Rebuild the downtown and the projections might get close to half of what they are predicting IMHO. Until then work with what we have until a demand is created by downtown renewal, don't expect downtown renewal to occur because you build a train station or 2
No the dump was on the west side of Hwy20 Speedway Park was on the east.
Isn’t that the truth. Facts be damned Kirk is always right :lol:
OK Is that where Pros golf is? There is no ongoing development there either. Thats a lot tougher spot to get to than IWS for most anyway. You can’t reach it from the mountain or the lower city although the dump could provide one heck of a huge parking lot :roll:
Huh?
Cutting and pasting is easy. So is reading. (at least or some 
)
I’m a calm happy guy. No steam here at all. I love discussing this stuff. It’s great fun and very interesting.