NCAA Copies 3-4 Defence From NFL To Deal With Spread Offence

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Another fine and rare article any more about X's and O's here.

Interestingly a few NFL teams like Indianapolis and Arizona have been spreading their players out on offencive sets, with no true tight end on the line, even more like in the spread offences in most of all in the Big 12 at the NCAA level (and likely soon to be former Big 12 for that matter), yet here's a case in which more NCAA teams are copying the NFL's 17 teams now who play a base 3-4.

One key reason referenced in the article for the growth of the 3-4 in the NFL is availability of players of prototype size.

Quite simply there is just a shortage of guys 6-3 or better with long arms and 270 to play DE in a 4-3 but now more big LBs who can play also on the outside in a 3-4, and even pass rush about as well as most DEs in a 4-3, who are not as tall as those DEs yet at 260 or more just as fast as the outside linebackers of average size about 235. Also there seem to be a few more huge hosses at 320 or more than ever who can play nose tackle and stop up two gaps on either side of center or otherwise in the middle.

Still only 14 out of about 120 Div I/FBS NCAA teams play a 3-4 as their base set, but noteworthy as well is the quality of most of those programs including Alabama, BYU, Cal, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Navy, Texas Tech as well as 5 more programs that play a base 3-3-5 including notables Michigan and West Virginia.

A 3-3-5 sounds more like a CFL long yardage defense at 3-4-5 or 3-3-6 that I am just beginning to understand for that matter.

MICHIGA 3-35 DEFENSE GOT RIP TOO SHREADS IN THE BIG TEN....IFLORIDA RAN THAT 3-3-5 AGAINST BAMA AND GOT CREAMED.IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT FORMATION YOU USE IF YOU DONT HAVE THE ATHLETES THEN ITS NOT GOING TO WORK.COULD WESTERN RUNNING A SPREAD BEAT A OHIO STATE RUNNING A BASE 4-3 DEFENSE?HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FORMATION BUT MORE TOO DO WITH ATHLETES ON HAND

Right of course at most of the NCAA level talent trumps all but not ultimately at the highest level ...and also check your anger management with the use of ALL CAPS in your posts. Maybe a computer or the internet is new to you?

Any way get back to us when you actually have some post that either does not slam again the CFL AND toot your pathetic horn for Ohio State let alone your apparent dump of a neighbourhood. With every single one of your posts in memory along those lines, maybe that is never? :thup: Your real name I think is Lou Zerr too I am hearing.

Oh and USC running a West Coast offense with a freshman quarterback did just fine right there in Columbus against your overrated as usual team, so how quickly you forget of course.

Dude you ought join some Ohio State blog or something I am sure they would love you over there. :roll:

Everyone else please excuse this interruption and weigh in all the same without homering your NCAA team if you can. :thup:

Looks like someone is having basic trouble with using the internet ...it figures.

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Telling article for which I have seen the trend for more than just this player a whole lot lately with now 17 NFL defenses using the 3-4 as their base set from the report from a previous post below on this thread ...strangely the NFL DE's in a 4-3, more of the NFL OLB's in a 3-4 than ever, and CFL DE's are becoming one and the same position and prototype with more emphasis on speed on the edge pass rush than ever.

Also in each game and defence let's not overlook that speed alone won't make much difference for the player without some decent strength to counter bigger and quicker hosses at tackle than ever at an average of 320 or more with usually more reach/wingspan.

As the Miami Dolphins are doing actively now in Canada as linked in the "Offseason Transactions" thread, now we ought to wonder if more NFL teams will attempt to raid the solid pass-rushers in the CFL more than ever as well for they are more similar in physique and skills to their NFL counterparts than ever it would seem. :?

Now it will in turn be telling for sake of the CFL if and how the CFL defences improve in particular with the pass rush given that even more of these talented pass rushers, in my view more heavily being recruited out of the CFL by the NFL, will be in the league for longer even if it is "only" one season as I have heard some suggest.

It only takes one solid season of teamwork by fundamentally talented guys with heart to win the Grey Cup I say to that line of thought no matter what such guys end up doing afterwards.

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Another excellent article on NFL 3-4 defences here by Pat Kirwan. The 3-4 is used now used by a record 15 NFL teams not counting the few teams that play a hybrid to include also the 3-4 in some sets. Note IMHO that sometimes I think the Steelers and the Ravens of these defences actually play a 3-5 or 4-4 respectively with their various common blitz packages and more frequent involvement of their safeties nearer the line of scrimmage whether playing run or pass.

Note the mention also of Cameron Wake in the article and the restatement of the trend that there appears to be no shortage of demand for more such pass rushing tweener players to play OLB in the 3-4 defence in the NFL wherever they are playing now.

Interestingly for this Super Bowl, for only the second time of which I am aware, two 3-4 defences are squaring off.

However, in contrast to the last time two years ago with the Steelers against the awful Cardinals' 3-4 as is still woeful, it's the first time two top 3-4 defences are matching up in the title game.

Green Bay also is one of the few NFC teams that runs a 3-4, and the only one outside the NFC West, because the Redskins are probably ending their terrible 3-4 experiment that involved the Haynesworth disaster.

Read up on NFL 3-4 defence in the excellent article below.

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Note the great article here on the Packers and their offence followed by a great one on the two 3-4 defences matching up this weekend.

You'll see why you will essentially be watching two Pittsburgh defences not just one on Sunday.

As this thread is old and not well read, I'll probably just make this my last post and re-post this message in the Super Bowl thread.