“After a lot of thought and prayer, I have decided to call it a career and retire from the CFL,? the six-foot-two, 210-pound native of Medicine Hat posted on Twitter. “I know I could still play a couple of years. However, with how my body and more importantly my head have been acting up in the last couple years due to injuries, I feel that long-term health and quality of life are my priority now.?Another player who balances the importance of life after football and concussions. The attention to the issue seems to be helping players better recognize when it is time to walk away from the game.
Sad. Very above average CFL WR - another one that got away from the Bombers who apparently had their own bird dog being a season ticket holder for the Saskatchewan Flunkies!
I love football but often wonder why anyone would play for the kind of money the CFL pays on average for a career span of about 4-5 years if that on average. No guaranteed contracts, reduced often in mid stream
Have you seen the shape most football players are in at 50? Walk like 85 year olds.
As far as why? Well...I hate to say it, but a lot of players buy into the dellusion that the CFL is the speed bump to the NFL. Don't get me wrong, a lot of CFL players graduate to the NFL and make their million, but they aren't the majority. Also, a good chunk of them love the game, and will gladly take a pay cut to play for cash. It is still a game, fundamentally. Last, some simply make bad choices when they go to universities and need to play. How many Football players go to NCAA schools and take General Arts, Communications, a lame duck Business degree or Sports medicine? You need confidence if you are going to play pro sports, but too often that confidence can be an undoing when the time comes to put sports aside, if you don't make it.
As far as the money involved? I believe the estimated average is around 80,000. It's a bit skewed though as QBs and high end stars draw big bank, and rookies have a rookie contract only worth around 50,000 (unless you are on PR, at which point you are struggling).
So during your rookie years, you are making a decent wage, if you stick around, you are likely making a better wage, but not enough to retire on by far. You still need to consider life after Football, which to be honest is why a lot of parents and kids aren't getting into the game anymore. Contact sports, paticulairly ones that can create concussions, have long term health risk associated. There is a reason 55 is the average life expectancy of a NFL player.
It's espcially bad in Football, frankly because of linemen. Linemen carry a lot of weight, both in muscle and fat, and that is a health risk. Too often Linemen end up with knee issues, due to weight and the fact they are pushing with their legs, their body weight and their opponents body weight, every down. It's going to wear your knees down.
Then when you add concussions to that mix, it becomes far worse. CTE suffers basically have microsopic calcium deposits in their brain, that block how your brain communicates with itself and the body. That in turn can lead to all kinds of not only emotional and mental issues, but physical ones as well.
Then, a lot of the damage cause to your body in general results in chronic pain, and then with that, you have the host of issues with come from long term pain management and it's medications.
Yeah....I know from my perspective I have issues that stem from concussions years later. I no longer get random dizzy spells from leaning the wrong way too fast...and my short term memory seems to have improved a lot even though it will take me meeting most people a dozen times before I will remember their name (it is embarrassing because I try different ways to remember them but don't...the wife is aware of this and always says 'hello Jane, hello John' or whatever when we see people and doe it right off the hop because she knows it is iffy that I will be able to remember. People don't understand my history, obviously, and I am sure they would be offended if they knew I did not remember...and it sure as heck is not through a conscious effort to improve on it)...but I do have some issues I didn't have before them still. I get what I like to call "star spotting" which is basically little black stars that float through my vision and I get glazy. My wife knows when I am having them and they are only about 20 seconds and are less and less frequent. I used to get them several time a week, and now I only get them maybe every few months, though sometimes they will come in spurts. It scares the crap out of her because she knows what it is. I also get periods where I am almost in hibernation and will sleep 16-18 hours a day for about 8 - 9 days, Sometimes upping my workouts will help with that, but not always. We both know when those are coming because my mood changes. The best I can describe it is almost like being bipolar...except I am fully aware of what is going on with it and always active in trying to stem it. I have learned a few tricks that seem to help with me, including a heavier K2 diet when it is coming on. The most frustrating thing for me is that I am now horrid for seeing some things through...I intend to, but it often seems like the "squirrel" thing was created just for me. That is something that she has learned she just needs to be understanding on and knows how to talk to me about it because if not approached well it can set me off sometimes. Also, when I need to get something done I now set deadlines in writing...that has helped draw my focus because I can't stand missing actual deadlines. Might sound funny setting deadlines in writing for tasks for yourself...but it helps for me. For the most part I feel "normal" now but not always...I say that as I am presently in a period of hibernation mode...but overall it is true. The game is something tough to let go of...it is a hunger that needs fed for many people.
That would go for football at all levels why play high school , junior , university and pee wee . Injuries can leave you crippled at any point . Why do people pay to ski double black diamonds ?
$50,000 or $60,000 to play maybe 180 minutes of contact football a season possibly on the high side maybe 45 minutes on the lower side probably a lot less as some don't even get on the field for anything but special teams in a game seems pretty good . That salary is for the unproven on the roster . Plus they get perks .
I think for the Canadian University player who gets a good degree and can move onto a $50,000 or $65 ,000 to start at a job working in the field of their degree is the guy who is hard to keep . I think this is why it's harder to get a Canadian University QB to stick it out as 3rd string if he has options and wants to start his career in the field he spent 4 or 5 years working on and paying for unlike the ones who road their full scholarships to school .[url=http://thevarsity.ca/2016/10/31/athletic-scholarships-are-limited-in-canada/]http://thevarsity.ca/2016/10/31/athleti ... in-canada/[/url]
Good old Willis
Goes on Twitter and publicly questions the validity of Nates injury claims.
Says he thinks he quit due to salary reduction.
Pathetic act by Willis
Eskimos are a dumpster fire.
With mouth pieces like Willis, it is no wonder Hervey didn't want media access in the ESK's room! :?
Here is the tweet from Odell Willis on Coehoorn's retirement
Odell Willis ? @KuntryKane205
U take ur (30k)bonus and retire then LIE talking bout ur head and ur health. Boy, u just mad u took a pay cut! Plus u soft #YeahIsaidit
3:41 PM - 11 Apr 2017
and the response from Coehoorn
Nathan Coehoorn ? @NateCoehoorn
@KuntryKane205 Hey bro. Sorry you feel that way. But its not like that at all. I actually had a bonus coming on May 1st but decided to retire before that
6:31 PM - 11 Apr 2017
Nathan Coehoorn ? @NateCoehoorn
@KuntryKane205 It was great being your teammate and winning a Grey Cup with you.Thanks for the memories. Go win another one! GO ESKS GO!
6:32 PM - 11 Apr 2017
Nathan Coehoorn ? @NateCoehoorn
Also I would never retire off of how much money I was getting paid. There is a lot more to life to me than just money.
6:34 PM - 11 Apr 2017
Nathan Coehoorn ? @NateCoehoorn
@KuntryKane205 Health is a huge priority to me. When I didn’t even know where I was after I dove for that ball against sask week 2 that was not fun.
6:36 PM - 11 Apr 2017
I think it's shameful that lowbrow dipshits like Drew Edwards think of tweets as news. He's truly shameless.
Its too bad he had to retire... all the sports leagues are guilty of improperly diagnosing concussions... I hope that they wake up and realize that the CFL ain't your granddaddy's league anymore...
There will always be ways to improve, but things are progressing and that is of course good to see. We see more penalties and fines with the intent to get players more conscious of their actions, there have been multiple helmet changes over the past 5 seasons aimed at improving that tech in the CFL, specialists attending the games. These are all good steps to take, with many more to come as it all evolves.
Real problem in NHL/NFL/CFL is that, while concussions can occur from bad luck on an absolutely clean play, the leagues are not really truly doing anything to discourage the reckless, dangerous head shots/contact that results in what I will call "preventable" concussions.
Sorry !!!!!But nonsense. Football, hockey are fairly rough. Bur rugby, boxing, UFC are rougher.
POINT is concussions have happen and WILL happen in the past and future,
Medical knowledge grows with time but still hard to eliminate any injury. SUBMIT your plans to those leagues to stop concussions or injures. Its the players in battle in a split second decision. Hits happen and will continue.
Scumbag move by Willis. Big strides have been made to get players more open to accepting the reality of these and talking about it and even admitting they have an issue. That don't need flack like this. It helps nobody
Depop...given your history would you want your son ( if you have one) playing football?
That is actually something I have talked about with a few people on here over the years, a lot on PM when they were wanting a take on it...it is also something the wife and I had endless discussion on and were really back and forth on. At the end of the day...yes.
When we were first looking at it we felt we had to see how serious he was about it. We started him off in some flag football and he loved the game (as well as others). Basically hat we did was when he started playing we watched a lot of practice to see how receptive he was with the coaching staff and how he adapted to what they told him...he did that well, so that was a check mark. We also watched the coaches to see what they focused on and were really impressed. yes, they learned the game itself, but especially to start they put a lot (almost all) of emphasis on on proper technique for hitting, being hit, falling, how to position your body in traffic...it was pretty impressive.next they focused heavily on tackling technique...both on O and D. They emphasized the belt buckle rule a lot and told the offensive players that they had a responsibility in safe tackles as well....that was something I thought was really interesting. They essentially wanted ball carriers to go down on contact or before contact if someone was in a sprint at them. I talked to the staff about that and asked if it would not be better to have them protect for the hit instead, and he had a pretty brilliant answer...he wanted them to learn to make good decisions and he felt that if you taught them to stay in play/fight off tackles/take the hit from the start that it would normally grow into the player who lowered their shoulder when they shouldn't, but if you taught them that it was okay to take what you could get without getting banged up that it would lead to better decisions later. I thought that was a pretty impressive philosophy.
I think it is important for parents to see the practices and get a feeling if it is safe or not....and that will vary from coach to coach. My advise is that if you are considering letting your kid play, then go watch the team and talk to the coach a year in advance...ideally if you do not want to put your kid in it just to yank them later. A third of concussions happen in practice, so seeing how they operate is important.
I can understand parents protecting their children, and if they choose to keep them out of certain sports it is an understandable decision. But where do you draw the line? Hockey sees a lot of concussions, but I have always been of the opinion that those are a lot more severe. Soccer is right up there on the list as well. Kids are going to be at risk no matter what sport they play, and I want my kids playing some sort of sport, and they also want to play. Yes football has a higher occurrence, but we inform ourselves of the situation, something that lot of parents don't do. There are countless parents who don't watch the early on practices much and many that do watch them are not focusing on the right things. Don't worry about how your kid performs when they start out...worry about how the practice is as a whole. Does the coach correct players who lay into a ball carrier in an unsafe manner such as a high hit or not following the belt buckle rule? Does a ball carrier lower his head or turn his shoulder, and what does the coach do when he does? It is hard to teach little kids technique, but that is where responsible coaching needs to start.
For us we feel that if the kid is receptive to positive instruction that we do not want our kids in a bubble. We are fine with our kids getting banged up...we both lived through it growing up. We refuse to be helicopter parents and push our kids to learn from mistakes, but still review environments that they simply are not able to at our level.
Thanks. We gently encouraged and deliberately exposed ours more to other sports. But the discussion is a good one.
yeah, it is not an easy decision for sure. Believe me, if they favored something with lower injury risk we would have been all over it lol. I think it is a matter of balancing passions and risk. They boy really likes football. It is his preferred sport, so we encourage it. One thing that is nice now is that kids can join groups that cycle through sports and do a different one each week. We liked that because it gave the kids impressions of multiple sports and opened them up to them. There were a half dozen or so activities they did over a year. The boy even did gymnastics and will actually watch it on TV…nothing I ever had a big interest in because I was not exposed to it. We want him to take on another activity and he is trying to decide between a few…the leading contenders are gymnastics and martial arts. We want the kids in an activity that will improve full body strength and general agility, because that will help with impact sports in a big way. I guess that is one point I should stress…I am strongly of the opinion that if your kid is going to play something like football or hockey that they should also be in something like that. From my history it seems like people who do one of those are less prone to severe injury. I would actually love to see some stats on it because it is just an assumption based on what I have noticed over the years.
During the Habs/ Rangers games I was disturbed to watch games that were particularly filled with very aggressive behavior by both teams. What was very noticeable was the behavior of the officials who were clearly calling less penalties because of the unwritten rule that penalty reduction in the playoff games in the unofficial norm in the NHL. This leads players to be more open to increased violence at playoff time. High sticking, increased board slamming and the permission of such behavior makes these games at more risk than regular season. Withholding on calling penalties does increase the violence of play and, the players, more so are subject to increased chance of concussion. This reality will come to for when the players who suffered from concussions are diagnosed with CTE upon their death. Hockey is subject to increased violent behaviors such as fighting which remain the norm of the game.