Montréal @ Hamilton

Alouettes de Montréal
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Oy.

The Cats' vaunted wildcat offense posted a whopping 20 points and just over 300 yards of total net offensive yardage. Did they run the ball well? Sure, they did. But that success came at the expense of their passing game (175 yards or so). We also scored 7 points off their offense on Tisdale's pick six. Take away the missed FG return for a TD and they lose to us, 23-20. Or if Pippin makes his field goals and we don't turn the ball over 1000 times, we win the game.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: any game in which our offense posts up 20 points AND offense+ST doesn't turn the ball over, we have a chance to win. The reason why we lost in Guelph? Turnovers, penalties, and that missed FG return off an egregious Whyte miss.

If Austin wants to go wildcat for most of the game and take the ball out of Burris's hands, I'm all for it TBH. That stuff will only get you so much if your passing game isn't established and Thorpe will be ready for it this week...

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C’est un peu ce que je crois aussi. Austin devait avoir préparé ces jeux pour les éliminatoires et s’est senti obligé de les sortir pour gagner la dernière partie, histoire d’avoir une partie éliminatoire pour les Timinous. Mais même à ça, si Whyte avait réussi ce foutu placement, il n’y serait pas parvenu.

Il est tout à fait exact de dire que la discipline et la protection du ballon demeureront des éléments capitaux dans cette partie. Les Alouettes ont donné le ballon 2 fois dans la zone payante lors de la dernière partie entre ce deux équipes, et c’est ce qui a fait mal car ça a gardé les Timinous dans la partie. Si ces occasions avaient été réussies, les Alouettes retournaient à la demie avec une avance de 19, 22 ou 27 points.

Ceci pour dire que même si Austin est un meilleur stratège et que les entraîneurs des Timinous préparent mieux leur équipe globalement, les Alouettes sont capables de les battre. Les Timinous le savent, mais ils savent aussi qu’ils peuvent battre les Alouettes.

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You got to be kidding. He got that award by default. We are 4-2 in the last six games and he’s the main culprit in both losses. He’s missed his last 3 consecutive field goals and lost his punting job. I hope he gets his game together he’s a nice kid but he does not give me the warm fuzzies but just like the award he’s playing out of lack of options.

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Not quite. We have Alvarado on the practice roster, we could have dressed him for this week’s game. But we didn’t.

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If you look at Alverado’s college and combine number, there is nothing there that tells me he’s any better place kicker than Whyte and Dales is at least as good a punter as Alverado and understands our game better. We are going with the best option we have right now IMO.

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I'll be content if they beat the Tiger-Cats.

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With the way Whyte is kicking right now, I’m not sure how you can say he’s our best option. Alvarado may not be a stellar placekicker but I’m guessing he could hit a field goal at around 40 yards. Then there’s the kickoff issue. He would do better than Whyte there too, I think.

But yes, if we beat Hamilton, I’ll be happy and I won’t care how it’s done. But if the game turns on Pippin missing a 40-yard field goal…

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And there’s nothing that tells me he could possibly be worse.

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Let’s Look At The Tale Of The Tape For This Heavy Weight Battle!

Hamilton vs. Montreal
3 Meetings - 1 each at home & 1 neutral site … Even
Record = 2-1 … Advantage Hamilton

Averages For The 3 Games

Average Points Scored = 20 vs. 28.67 … Advantage Montreal
1st Downs = 21.67 vs. 26.67 … Advantage Montreal
Passing 1st Downs = 8.34 vs. 12 … Advantage Montreal
Rushing 1st Downs = 7.34 vs. 7.34 … Even
1st Downs On Penalties = 6 vs. 7.34 … Advantage Montreal
Rushing Yards = 95.67 vs. 87.34 … Advantage Hamilton
Yards / RA = 5.27 vs. 4.37 … Advantage Hamilton
Yards Passing = 160.34 vs. 281 … Advantage Montreal
Yards / PA = 5.29 vs. 7.59 … Advantage Montreal
Completion % = 59.22 vs. 59.47 … Even
Interceptions Thrown = 1 vs. .67 … Advantage Montreal
Fumbles Given = 1 vs. 1.67 … Advantage Hamilton
Penalty Yards = 62.67 vs. 83 … Advantage Hamilton
Punts = 7 vs. 6.67 … Advantage Montreal
Punting Yards = 41.67 vs. 36.23 … Advantage Hamilton

8 Montreal Advantages
6 Hamilton Advantages
3 Evens

When I plug the numbers into the hotly contested & debated & often infruriating “What Makes Teams Win" Formula … … It’s says Montreal by 2.44 points.

That’s all on paper & and the numbers are from the past … The game is played on the field and the past is but a distant memory!

I still like the TiCats’ chances and say they win by 4!

Regardons l'histoire de la bande pour ce poids lourd bataille !

Hamilton vs Montréal
3 Réunions - 1 chacun à la maison et 1 site … Même neutre
Enregistrement = 2-1 … Avantage Hamilton

Moyennes pour les 3 jeux

Moyenne de points marqués = 20 vs 28.67 … Avantage Montréal
1er Downs = 21.67 vs 26.67 … Avantage Montréal
Passant 1er Downs = 8,34 vs 12 … Avantage Montréal
Rushing 1er Downs = 7,34 vs 7,34 … Même
1er Downs aux tirs au but 6 = 7,34 vs … Avantage Montréal
Verges au sol = 95.67 vs 87.34 … Avantage Hamilton
Yards / RA = 5,27 vs 4,37 … Avantage Hamilton
Verges par la passe = 160.34 vs 281 … Avantage Montréal
Yards / PA = 5,29 vs 7,59 … Avantage Montréal
Achèvement % = 59.22 vs 59.47 … Même
Interceptés Démonté = 1 vs .67 … Avantage Montréal
Échappés Étant donné = 1 vs 1,67 … Avantage Hamilton
Verges de pénalité = 62.67 vs 83 … Avantage Hamilton
Dégagements = 7 vs 6,67 … Avantage Montréal
Yards bottés = 41.67 vs 36.23 … Avantage Hamilton

8 Avantages Montréal
6 Hamilton Avantages
3 Evens

Lorsque je branche les nombres dans la très disputée et débattue et souvent infruriating " What Makes équipes gagnent " Formule … C’est dit Montréal par 2,44 points.

C’est tout ce que sur le papier et et les chiffres sont du passé … Le jeu se joue sur le terrain et le passé n’est plus qu’un lointain souvenir !

J’aime encore les chances des Tiger-Cats et dire qu’ils gagnent par 4 !

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You know what the funny thing is? As much of a problem as our kicking unit has been this year, Hamilton's and Toronto's have somehow been worse.

Montreal FG % = 82.0% (9 misses)
Hamilton FG % = 71.7% (13 misses)
Toronto FG % = 65.4% (18 misses)

And with Burke Dales punting, I'd definitely say we've got the edge over the other teams now, too.

This is not meant to be some kind of apologist argument for Sean Whyte; I'm still feeling the pain of that loss against Hamilton in Guelph. I'm just saying, if I was Hamilton or Toronto, I'd be looking up, and not down, at our kicking unit. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Weather is shaping up to play in our favour too. High winds will force teams to go to the ground and I like our defense on the ground in particular if we don't have to defend deep zones.

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Not with Pippin doing the placekicks. Just one more excuse for him to miss a makeable field goal…

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And it doesn’t require a ratio change. But Whyte never disappoints me because I don’t really expect anything form him.

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While the addition of Delbert Alvarado would not result in a ratio change, it would result in another dressed Import out of the game. For the final game of the regular season,the three designated Imports were: Bo Bowling,Ed Gainey and Winston Venable; had Alvarado been dressed, 1 of these 3 designated players would have been out.

For the semi-final, Ed Gainey will start,replacing Byron Parker and Ben Wells will become 1 designated player as will, most probably, Bo Bowling and Winston Venable. You add Alvarado and 1 of these 3 players is out; not worth it,particularly since Burke Dales will do the punting.

Richard

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All I can say for tomorrow's game is that Hamilton is beatable.

The question now is: Can the Als make something out of this dismal season? Sure hope so!

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It is a very interesting matchup and with the injuries to the Stampeders the team that has the best chance of beating the Ticats is Montreal IMO. Both teams have plenty of rookies and give up the ball quite a bit in different ways. Both teams have limited range place kicking. But the biggest test may be play calling and preparation. Montreal controlled all 3 games but in two of these Hamilton's Austin stole the wins by going into a bag of tricks that Thorpe was not prepared to handle.

Anyone who makes a prediction is really just making a W.A.G. Impossible to predict kind of game.

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Austin didn't steal anything. We lost those two games via turnovers, penalties, and ST messing the bed.

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This is frustrating! Every time I, or someone else praise Austin, immediately one of you guys negates this by, dismissing the reality that Austin's offensive change was, in part, a causative action that, in part led the TiCats to victory. Then you note the other realities such as penalties, dropped passes, missed FG etc. Can you not admit that the offense installed by Austin had, at least something to do with the Als defeat? HfxTC, you were the only respondent who gave Austin some credit for the TiCats win.
Why are the rest of you guys so unable to give Austin at least partial recognition, that his coaching had some connection to the TiCat win? His offense did have some ability to control the clock in the final half, his offense produced less QB sacks by the Als, as compared to their earlier games. Masoli was able to achieve success, some of the time by gaining good runs up the middle and, when the Als pinched up around the middle, I think it was Hall who had a great run around one of the ends.
Enough of my ranting, I'll be cheering like mad with the rest of you for an Alouette win.

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Maybe it will be his day and will make that FG :wink:

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Let's hope, Niagara, that the Als give us lots of reasons to be cheering!