Molson Stadium removes 1000 seats.

It appears that Toronto will soon have the highest attendance in the Eastern Division(The Big Four) Montreal has reduced their seating capacity to about 24K(not sure how many standing room patrons will be allowed in) Ottawa will have 24000 seats as well. The Cats will have 22500 and the Argos will have about 25000 (possibly more depending on how many seats are retractable.
I guess the real story here is how the Als overbuilt and are now scrambling to create demand for their tickets again. The als can't raise ticket prices more then inflation until they start to sell out again. In this reguard I believe that with all of the problems with the Bombers stadium has had, that the biggest problem is yet to come. It is 25% too large. The Bombers have always averaged about 25K (whether the Jets have been around or not) Why they built a stadium larger then that does not make much sense. I tryed to go to a Whitecaps game the other day and could not get a ticket. The scalpers were actually trying to buy tickets. The ticket prices are waaaaay overpriced for the 49th ranked soccer league in the world, but the Caps have made a false demand by. only selling 19000 tickets.
I believe by next season you will see tarped off upper deck seats at IGF.

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To clarify… The Bombers will be tarping in 2015. With or without the Grey Cup the stadium is too large. 2016 could be a real downer for the Bombers if they can’t turn things around fast.

Relax, there's no chance of "tarping" in Winnipeg any year soon. Okay, I see where it talks about taking out the 1,000 "temporary bleacher" seats to make the fan experience better. Not a big deal

The Als had 6000 people on their season ticket waiting list when they decided to add 5000 seats to the stadium. At the time, people actually thought the Als were being to short sighted by not adding more. Well by the time the construction was completed, the waiting list had more or less been absorbed and the Als have never once sold out Molson stadium. They have averaged about 23000 ever since and now are having to get creative to try to fill the place.

The Bombers have averaged higher than 25,000 for some time now and IMO, IGF capacity is about right for the market.

In 2011, the BB's had a respectable season (although tanked in the stretch losing 7 of their last 10), and yet still managed to sell out nearly every game at Canada Inns.
and in 2012 this woeful team averaged 95% full capacity, while in 2013 were at 92% capacity amidst one of the worst club records in CFL history.

The Bomber faithful are a rabid bunch and will sell out IGF with a decent team on the field.

actually, THF will hold approx 24,000 capacity. (22,500 seats/suites and 1,500 on the patio lounge)

Plus, Montreal will not lose the whole 1000 seats... a portion of those will be sold to patio lounge patrons... maybe 500??? So, in fact, the net loss of seats will be about 500 seats but they will probably increase revenue by selling naming rights to the lounge and increasing food and beverage sales.

Plus, Montreal will not lose the whole 1000 seats... a portion of those tickets will be sold to patio lounge patrons... maybe 500??? So, in fact, the net loss of seats will be about 500 seats but they will probably increase revenue by selling naming rights to the lounge and increasing food and beverage sales. Not a bad idea.

No needing to tarp off seats in winnipeg as soon as that team finds out how to play and be more competitive then a high school football team they will sell out. This only leads to two teams who need to tarp off seats b.c lions and toronto argonauts guess what guy owns them the cheapskate who could care less about improving the fan experience of going to any cfl games.

Didn't even need to read the name to know what idiot wrote this post.

FIXATED is the word that comes to mind !

Patios with standing is what is happening with stadiums now. Rogers Centre didn't add seats when the Windows restaurant was closed, went to a standing setup. And this all fits in with how the newer NFL stadiums could look:

Future NFL stadiums could feature less sitting, more standing

[i]Our pal Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times has written an article that looks at the various challenges the NFL is facing. One of the biggest arises from persuading fans to choose to attend games over watching them at home.

Late in the item comes an intriguing prediction about the configuration of future NFL stadiums, courtesy of NFL executive V.P. of business operations Eric Grubman.

“What if a new stadium we built wasn’t 70,000, but it was 40,000 seats with 20,000 standing room?? Grubman said. “But the standing room was in a bar-type environment with three sides of screens, and one side where you see the field. Completely connected. And in those three sides of screens, you not only got every piece of NFL content, including replays, Red Zone [Channel], and analysis, but you got every other piece of news and sports content that you would like to have if you were at home.

“Now you have the game, the bar and social setting, and you have the content. What’s that ticket worth? What’s that environment feel like to a young person? Where do you want to be? Do you want to be in that seat, or do you want to be in that pavilion??

Plenty of people would choose to be in the pavilion, if the price is right. (And if the beer isn’t priced quite so high.)

Grubman’s example, with a 70,000-seat stadium becoming a 60,000-person hybrid, reflects another inevitable reality for the NFL. To maintain the buzz of a full stadium, stadiums may need to get smaller.

“A restaurant isn’t as good if there’s only four people in there,? 49ers CEO Jed York said. “When a restaurant is hustling and bustling, it just feels better, the food tastes better because you see everybody else enjoying it. That’s the same thing for any live event. Great bands, if you don’t have a great crowd, then the band isn’t quite as good.?

He’s right — and it’s wise for the league to continuously be thinking about ways to adapt the business model to ensure that business continues to thrive, not only on TV but inside each and every stadium.[/i]

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In my opinion, folks are way way way WAYYYYY too concerned with the house having the exact number of seats as can be sold. Folks are way to concerned with a few empty seats or a couple of tarps. So what? Get over it.

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Plus, Montreal will not lose the whole 1000 seats... a portion of those will be sold to patio lounge patrons... maybe 500??? So, in fact, the net loss of seats will be about 500 seats but they will probably increase revenue by selling naming rights to the lounge and increasing food and beverage sales.
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That is exactly what they are doing they are just taking 1,000 seats in a section of the stadium and turning that section into a specialty area, in this case the patio lounge.
Something that fans enjoy.
THF had this built into their plans.
Edmonton made a profit last season. A big reason why was specialty area in which they promoted and have a sponsor for for the Sawmill Resturant endzone party that is already sold out for two games this season.
Having a variety of sections and expereinces for those section is where the modern sport franchise makes their money.
The days of just selling 50K tickets for a seat or over. Corporate suites have finally hit all CFL stadiums now but are expensive and for a top elite group of big money corporations.
These Lounges, Patio Decks give fans something in the middle

Well said cflsteve.

So they are skyboxes for the 99%ers.... I see

The reality is the Alouettes are one of the most successful franchises in the CFL. They have high ticket prices, generate substantial sponsorship revenue along with an exclusive RDS TV contract.

Most of the seats the Als added were in the corners and endzones. Not many fans like sitting in CFL endzones if there are better seats available. Taking out some of these undesirable seats to incorporate a patio makes sense, turning a drag on revenues into a draw.

Anything bad you can say about Montreal could be applied to most other teams in the CFL. That's just the way it is. As long as fans still enjoy watching the games, that's all that counts. :thup:

Free enterprise = charge what the market can bear.

I agree they did add 5K more seats after over a decade of 20K sellouts. Although they did not sell out all 25K seats per game they did sell about 3K of them upping there game attendance form 20K to 23K.
Now they see that they do not need 25K really at a minimal cost turning 1000 of those seats into a specialty patio area and having the capacity at 24K they will now make $$$ off of those 1000 less seats.
Addition by subtraction. Subrat 1000 25 dollar tickets and add a higher price for the patio amenitie that fans will by as well as having a sponsor pay for the naming rights of the section

Oh... lol... Im not saying anything bad about the Als...Wetenhall makes a killing off of them... Their corporate sponsorship and league revenues alone make them profitable... They don't need to sell a single seat