Let's get serious now.. what really is the #1 issue the CFL needs to address to grow?

[fredbf]

@canadianfootballfan

I wasn’t saying anything about changing that. And a vast majority of Canadians would agree. No need to tell us not to do the thing we already don’t want to do.

But, it is always nice to hear others voicing their agreement!

[cflisthebest]

@JoeyT

…d halftime. That happens to be about as long as it takes to play pro soccer or rugby or F1 which are some of the world’s most popular and successful sports.The organizations that run those sports are also not crying poor for not having commercial breaks other than at halftime.We have so many advertising tools now, can we not trim down the commercial breaks to improve some aspect of the presentation?

Amateur football has different timing rules so 2 hours is a stretch…

[cflisthebest]

@canadianfootballfan

The main thing the CFL needs right now, especially in the current political climate, is for all the Canadians who put the NFL first to put the CFL first instead. To take all the money they spend on the NFL and spend it on the CFL instead.

The CFL would thrive if that happened.

maybe Trump will put a tariff on all Canadian Players who play in the NFL… then the fans will watch and cheer for the CFL… lol

[StillHavingFun]

@Esks93

It was 3 until the Eskimos collapsed. But thats more an example of how the community was betrayed.

Obviously this thread wouldn’t exist if our current system wasn’t broken so I wouldn’t be so quick to shut down other models

Imagine every league has threads about how they can improve.

[JoeyT]

@cflisthebest

Amateur football has different timing rules so 2 hours is a stretch…

I operated the game clock for Concordia Stinger home games in 2008… thanks

[EastVanMark]

@JoeyT

I operated the game clock for Concordia Stinger home games in 2008… thanks

So you witnessed first hand just how bad they were

[DBU]

@JoeyT

…d halftime. That happens to be about as long as it takes to play pro soccer or rugby or F1 which are some of the world’s most popular and successful sports.The organizations that run those sports are also not crying poor for not having commercial breaks other than at halftime.We have so many advertising tools now, can we not trim down the commercial breaks to improve some aspect of the presentation?

Improving the game day experience in the ground is critical. The paying fans that buy tickets what to see the play at pace, not hanging about. That requires play to be as continuous as possible. We don’t need the time filled with stuff, get on with the game. No time outs. TV needs to fit around the live game, as it does in most other sports (eg Soccer).

[Grover]

@DBU

(eg Soccer).

Soccer is extremely boring to watch. Such a big field, with too many defenders. 90 minutes of running up and down with hardly any shots on goal, and even less scores per game. But that’s not the worst part!! All the time invested watching the game, and having it end a tie makes this game not just boring, but a waste of time.

They should shorten the field, widen the goals, and play without goalies!

A baseball game is a close 2nd.
(although the pitch clock has really helped)

[DBU]

@Grover

…o watch. Such a big field, with too many defenders. 90 minutes of running up and down with hardly any shots on goal, and even less scores per game. But that’s not the worst part!! All the time invested watching the game, and having it end a tie makes this game not just boring, but a waste of time.They should shorten the field, widen the goals, and play without goalies!A baseball game is a close 2nd.

No offside, allow the players to pick up the ball too… very soon we get to Australian football…
I was using soccer as an example of a game where the TV fit around the game. Australian football is almost the same, there they add a bit of time after a goal is scored for TV. There is a natural break to reset the sides for the restart anyway, so the extra time to accommodate TV is no more that 10 or 15 seconds.

[cflisthebest]

@JoeyT

I operated the game clock for Concordia Stinger home games in 2008… thanks

what does that have to do with believing the CFL could get their games down to 2 hours? Amateur timing and clock work is different than Pro. not to mention TV time outs etc.

[cflisthebest]

@DBU

…Improving the game day experience in the ground is critical. The paying fans that buy tickets what to see the play at pace, not hanging about. That requires play to be as continuous as possible. We don’t need the time filled with stuff, get on with the game. No time outs. TV needs to fit around the live game, as it does in most other sports (eg Soccer).

well, they did start using commerical ads while still showing the game a number of seasons ago… I think they can’t completely remove commercials but they could put a lot more of the during game Ads into the broadcast an eliminate half of the full commercials.

[cflisthebest]

@DBU

…ide, allow the players to pick up the ball too… very soon we get to Australian football…I was using soccer as an example of a game where the TV fit around the game. Australian football is almost the same, there they add a bit of time after a goal is scored for TV. There is a natural break to reset the sides for the restart anyway, so the extra time to accommodate TV is no more that 10 or 15 seconds.

I say if the soccer player goes down with an injury they keep playing, no stopping. they can go cart off the player quickly while the play is in the other end.

[FootbalYouBet]

like the old football cartoons

[JoeyT]

@cflisthebest

what does that have to do with believing the CFL could get their games down to 2 hours? Amateur timing and clock work is different than Pro. not to mention TV time outs etc.

CFL, USports and the CJFL have 15 minute quarters. They all have 3 minute warnings in both halfs with associated clock stoppages. There are 12 minute quarters in many high school jurisdictions, but not at the USports or CJFL level.

I was suggesting that the CFL and its broadcast partner might benefit in quality from reducing or eliminating TV timeouts aside from halftime. I can appreciate if you think this is impossible because of lost or irreplaceable revenue. But the amount of time it takes hypothetically to play a CFL, CJFL or USports level Canadian football game without commercials would be essentially the same.

[Jon]

@JoeyT

…CJFL level.I was suggesting that the CFL and its broadcast partner might benefit in quality from reducing or eliminating TV timeouts aside from halftime. I can appreciate if you think this is impossible because of lost or irreplaceable revenue. But the amount of time it takes hypothetically to play a CFL, CJFL or USports level Canadian football game without commercials would be essentially the same.

I may be the exception, but I am all for TV timeouts and old timey commercials. This gives me the opportunity to go to the bathroom or make a snack or refresh a drink without missing any action if I am watching live, which is normally the case if I am on a game thread. If I am watching on PVR delay I just zip through commercials if I don’t need a break.

What I can’t stand is ads zipping across the screen or split screens that are difficult to see. They are distracting and take away from the viewing experience on CFL games and regular TV shows or movies. I make sure I don’t ever buy the product that irritates me with such ads. I may be old school, but I am happy that I don’t have the attention span of a 20 year old and I do not require something zipping across the screen every 5 seconds or loud noises to maximize my viewing experience.

Commercials pay for the league. Keep them coming!

[mikem]

@Jon

…e viewing experience on CFL games and regular TV shows or movies. I make sure I don’t ever buy the product that irritates me with such ads. I may be old school, but I am happy that I don’t have the attention span of a 20 year old and I do not require something zipping across the screen every 5 seconds or loud noises to maximize my viewing experience.Commercials pay for the league. Keep them coming!

Commercials pay for other leagues too, I like the idea in soccer where they are on the flash boards across from the cameras, they don’t flash across the screen or split screen.

[Jon]

@mikem

Commercials pay for other leagues too, I like the idea in soccer where they are on the flash boards across from the cameras, they don’t flash across the screen or split screen.

I don’t watch soccer much and am not familiar with what you describe, but that sounds better than flashing crap on the screen while the game is being played.

[mikem]

@Jon

I don’t watch soccer much and am not familiar with what you describe, but that sounds better than flashing crap on the screen while the game is being played.

just watch an Argo game and the boards on the sidelines at BMO. That is one reason why both teams are on the same sideline, the video boards run the length of the field

[FootbalYouBet]

someday we will have a stadium called the Canadian Tire Tim Hortons RBC Speedy Auto Glass Cargill Allied Van LInes place

[bobo82]

Or just the CTTHRBCSAGCAVL stadium for short .