Glenn may consider himself a starter and he may want to be in a QB competition with Tate but none of that is his call. Huff seems to have a lot of confidence in second year pro Bo Levi. Glenn may find himself in a QB competition for the second string spot and may stick around on the Calgary roster until a starter with a young back up behind him not named Mitchell goes down for a period of time and Calgary can then offer Glenn up as a temp QB.
Glenn can be a very valuable qb in a very 2nd string or 3rd string position but he's not the future for any team. He is looking to follow in the steps of a Marcus Brady but with more experience. Often the best coaches were basically average players.
...I could live with Glenn...I don't know for how long though....I agree with wolverine...this is highly speculative at best right now AND if Huf. wants our first rounder...I say no-go... Pierce and Glenn two very different pivot types, can't see both on the club....We shall see if this rumour has any foundation ...I'm hearing the tweet might just be wishful thinking BUT ya never know.... :roll:
Why are people comparing Glenn to Marcus F. Brady? Glenn has taken his team to two Grey Cup games (yes, I count the 07 loss to SSK, since he was basically the big reason Winnipeg made it to the final) and has had many years of productivity as a starter in this league. Brady never even made it out the gate as a starter. Inadmissible comparison IMO.
Looking through the record book it may surprise some to see Glenn at number 10 on the all time passing list, ahead of 11th Kent Austin and 2400 yards behind Tom Clement at 9th
Pretty much everyone ahead of him is or will be in the HOF.
1 Anthony Calvillo 78494 1994-2012 HAM, LVP, mtl,
2 Damon Allen 72381 1985-2007 BCL, EDM, HAM, MEMC, OTT, TOR,
3 Danny McManus 53255 1990-2006 BCL, CGY, EDM, HAM, WPG,
4 Henry Burris 46601 1998-2012 CGY, HAM, sas,
5 Ricky Ray 44588 2002-2012 EDM, TOR,
6 Matt Dunigan 43857 1983-1996 BCL, BIRC, EDM, HAM, TOR, WPG,
7 Doug Flutie 41355 1990-1997 BCL, CGY, tor,
8 Tracy Ham 40534 1987-1999 BALC, EDM, MTL, TOR,
9 Tom Clements 39041 1975-1987 HAM, OTT, SAS, WPG,
10 Kevin Glenn 36708 2001-2012 CGY, HAM, SAS, WPG,
11 Kent Austin 36030 1987-1996 BCL, SAS, TOR, WPG,
12 Dieter Brock 34830 1974-1984 HAM, WPG,
13 Tom Burgess 30308 1986-1995 OTT, SAS, WPG,
14 Ron Lancaster 28283 1970-1978 SAS,
15 Kerry Joseph 27244 2003-2012 EDM, OTTR, SAS, tor,
16 Condredge Holloway 25193 1975-1987 BCL, OTT, TOR,
17 Roy Dewalt 24147 1980-1988 BCL, OTT, WPG,
18 Danny Barrett 23419 1983-1998 BCL, CGY, ott, tor,
19 Dave Dickenson 22913 1997-2008 BCL, CGY,
20 Joe Paopao 22474 1978-1990 BCL, OTT, SAS,
21 Mike Kerrigan 21714 1986-1996 HAM, TOR,
22 John Hufnagel 21594 1976-1987 CGY, sas, WPG,
23 Khari Jones 21383 1998-2005 BCL, CGY, HAM, WPG,
24 Warren Moon 21228 1978-1983 EDM,
25 David Archer 20671 1993-1998 EDM, OTT, SACC, SANC,
26 Tom Wilkinson 20192 1970-1981 BCL, EDM, TOR,
27 Kerwin Bell 19538 1993-2001 EDM, SACC, TOR, WPG,
28 Darian Durant 18557 2006-2012 sas,
29 Joe Barnes 18481 1976-1986 CGY, mtl, sas, tor,
30 Marcus Crandell 17227 1997-2008 CGY, EDM, sas,
31 Jason Maas 17126 2000-2010 edm, HAM, MTL,
32 Jeff Garcia 16442 1994-1998 CGY,
33 Reggie Slack 16173 1993-2003 BIRC, HAM, SAS, TOR, WPG,
34 Don Jonas 15064 1970-1974 Ham, TOR, WPG,
35 Nealon Greene 14518 1998-2006 edm, mtl, sas, TOR,
36 Buck Pierce 14113 2005-2012 BCL, WPG,
37 Rickey Foggie 14009 1988-2002 BCL, EDM, HAM, MTL, TOR,
38 Chuck Ealey 13833 1972-1978 Ham, TOR, WPG,
39 J.C. Watts 12414 1981-1986 OTT, TOR,
40 Travis Lulay 11972 2009-2012 BCL,
41 Michael Bishop 11971 2002-2011 CGY, mtl, SAS, tor, wpg,
42 Jerry Keeling 11675 1970-1975 CGY, Ham, Ott,
43 Casey Printers 11647 2003-2010 BCL, ham,
44 Jimmy Kemp 11383 1994-2001 EDM, MTL, SACC, SANC, SAS, TOR,
45 Todd Dillon 11258 1986-1994 HAM, OTT,
46 Jimmy Jones 11063 1973-1978 HAM, MTL,
47 Bruce Lemmerman 10522 1971-1980 EDM, HAM,
48 Gerry Dattilio 9952 1975-1985 CGY, MTL, tor,
49 Gilbert Renfroe 9141 1986-1994 BCL, CGY, OTT, SHR, TOR,
50 Don Moorhead 8689 1971-1975 BCL,
Interesting stat you came up with there Slant. 10th out of a pool of 50 QBs is pretty darn good I'd say. He even beat out Dickenson and Lancaster. What does that say? I'm impressed. And looking at Calvillo's total yards you have to wonder if any QB in the CFL will ever beat his record. Burris and Ray are still in the league and the closest. Calvillo has almost twkice as many yards as each of them! Wow, maybe some records are meant never to be broken. :rockin:
Slant - Where did you get your stats from? you show Ron Lancaster 1970 - 1978??? with only 27,000 yards?
I think you missed out his career in the 60's and a whole lot more yards, he had over 50,000 Yards passing!!
I personally would absolutely love it if the bombers were to bring back Glenn.
We would go from fighting it out with Hamilton or the basement, to being right in the mix of things with Toronto and Montreal...
Very good catch Mikem! :thup:
Yeah, I have heard TSN commentators discuss it several times actually. I have never understood why he took so much flack, I have always thought he was solid. 2010 Cats…9 wins, 2011 Cats…8, 2012…6. Now granted the Hamilton O looked pretty good last year and the D was rather bad, but the team had more wins with him. back in 03…I have no idea what made the Riders keep Butler over Glenn…oh, right…Wiley and Coyote tandem Barrett and Shivers.
Glenn’s numbers as a Bomber over 5 seasons:
1327/2182 for 18081yards Ratio:103/71
Those are respectable numbers.
Do they only start in 1970? I don’t see Russ Jackson, Bernie Faloney, Sam Etcheverry, Joe Zuger, Kenny Ploen, Joe Kapp, etc. etc.
Kevin Glenn averaged 6 yards per rush in 2012, buck only averaged 5…
Buck used to be a very mobile QB, but he isn’t anymore.
I personally don’t think Bucks a very good QB when healthy anymore. I’d like to see him a a coach more than a player.
better list...
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notes: the Canadian Football League (CFL) was formed as an unofficial merger between the Interprovincial Rugby Union and the Western Interprovincial football Union; CFL history generally traces to 1958 season; CFL recognizes commingled statistics dating to 1950 season; lists reflect totals since 1950 unless otherwise noted; all statistics include regular season games only
PASSING YARDS
30,000 or more listed YDS
- Anthony Calvillo 78,494
- Damon Allen 72,381
- Danny McManus 53,255
- Ron Lancaster 50,535
- Henry Burris 46,601
- Ricky Ray 44,588
- Matt Dunigan 43,857
- Doug Flutie 41,355
- Tracy Ham 40,534
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Tom Clements 39,041 -
Kevin Glenn 36,666 -
Kent Austin 36,030 -
Dieter Brock 34,830 -
Tom Burgess 30,308
TOUCHDOWN PASSES
200 or more listed TD
- Anthony Calvillo 449
- Damon Allen 394
- Ron Lancaster 333
- Matt Dunigan 306
- Henry Burris 300
- Tracy Ham 284
- Doug Flutie 270
- Danny McManus 259
- Tom Clements 252
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Ricky Ray 230 -
Dieter Brock 210 -
Kevin Glenn 204
- Anthony Calvillo 78,494
- Damon Allen 72,381
- Danny McManus 53,255
- Ron Lancaster 50,535
- Henry Burris 46,601
- Ricky Ray 44,588
- Matt Dunigan 43,857
- Doug Flutie 41,355
- Tracy Ham 40,534
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Tom Clements 39,041 -
Kevin Glenn 36,666 -
Kent Austin 36,030 -
Dieter Brock 34,830 -
Tom Burgess 30,308
the only QB that changes to above Glenn is Lancaster, so he is 11th
God...it still blows my mind thinking of what Flutie could have done.
Flutie: Games dressed: 135, YPG average...306
AC: Games dressed...322, YPG average...243
I know...Flutie was a starter by the end of his first season, but still...
ha...slant, you beat me to the new list
First of all, it wouldn't be a scenario of Glenn with Buck. It'd be one or the other.
Glenn would be an upgrade over Buck, if only because of the injury situation. The question then becomes...the compensation for Glenn? I'd be very hesitant to give up our 1st rounder unless there's information out there that hints the personnel we're targeting may be going to the NFL. Even then, the back and forth picks would have to be acceptable.
And how about Calgary? They would have to be pretty confident in B.L. Mitchell to take a chance of erasing their safety net behind Tate.
You can put me down as not a fan. Sure he'd upgrade the position due to his experience, and I'm sure would challenge Buck even if healthy for the starters job. But personally I don't like either of them as my starter. In the end it would probably provide us with a couple more wins, and playoffs, but they both suck when the game matters.
Like others have mentioned, one of the 2 new guys would have to go, but I guess they can take 5 into camp to rate them.
I hope as well it wouldn't be anything more than a 2nd. It would be too funny though to see the usuals come out and blast Mack for giving up too much in acquiring Glenn, after making such a big deal for him not getting an experienced QB :lol:
I don’t know about that. It makes some sense - an often injured QB backed up by what is referred to as the best back up…
Aside from the cost of carrying both QBs, it just doesn’t makes sense to go through the procedure of picking up two QBs like Clement and Hall and keeping Goltz, and plug them behind two veterans, virtually not developing any of them.