People, please. You seem to be forgetting some very important football truths.
The most important stat there is, is winning. Joseph has yet to win an important game. Yes, it could be because he was in Ottawa. Still, Ray has won 2 Grey Cups, so despite early difficulties on the Esks' side, you can't say Joseph is better than Ray.
Second, you can be a very good QB even though you do not win big games, but in that case, you have to have super stats: Dickenson or Payton Manning. Joseph doesn't have "super stats".
Also, did you just forget about last week's pathetic offensive display from Joseph's Riders against the Argos? Oh! He scored some points with 2 minutes left, hardly enough to win, and hardly enough to classify him as a top QB. :cowboy:
I guess I should've added another line to make sure Columbos' like yourself didn't only read what they wanted to.
So, I will specify, "a QB that has won an important game recently".
Crandell won once, several years ago. Ray won twice, including last year. Happy now? :roll:
Take Calvillo. He's had great stats for years, but was always questionned in Montreal because he didn't win the big game. And, when he won the big game, he was criticized because he had only won it once.
And you're telling me that Joseph 3-3 record with the Riders make him a top 3 QB of the CFL.
I have a better idea, let's wait until he proves himself.
Based on early performance, Joseph deserves to be in the top 3. But this is not new for Joseph. Even in Ottawa, he played well in the first half of seasons but tend to decline in the second half. More games and time will provide better information to judge.
Wins shouldn't be used to judge quarterbacks because wins come from a team effort. Or combination of offense, defense and special teams. Why should quarterbacks get all the credit for a win or all the blame for a loss?
When the Riders posters were calling for Joseph's head after the first game, I pointed out it was the defense that was the problem, not Joeseph. Same in the first Calgary game. SCoring hasn't been a problem. Defense has.
Last year Glenn finished 4th in QB rating, and 3rd (I believe) in TD's, yet I doubt too many were calling him a top end QB. Point being that personal stats don't always tell how a QB is doing overall. Joseph is another one of those mid-level QB's with potential, that still has to put together a winning season in order to get the critics off his back. His stats have been impressive thus far, but there's still a long way to go (likewise for Glenn).
The Calgary defense was mostly responsible for the 2001 win.
Joseph is a good one and will only get better with time.
If I was going to the Grey Cup next week and I could pick my QB from who's presently available,I would have to go with Calvillo. He's got an accurate arm,he moves the pocket around quite well and he scrambles when necessary.Not to take anything away from the other QB's in the League but A.C. would be my choice as of right now.