Ivor Wynne and Velodrome a GO ! : Infrastructure Ontario

February 17, 2011

Infrastructure Ontario issues RFQ for three Pan Am Games venues

TORONTO

Infrastructure Ontario (IO) has released a call for companies to submit their qualifications to design, build and finance three Toronto 2015 Pan/Parapan American Games projects.

The request for qualifications bundle is composed of two stadiums and a velodrome project.

The existing Ivor Wynne Stadium in the city of Hamilton will be one of the four host venues for the games’ soccer competition. The facility will be redeveloped.

The proposed velodrome, also located in Hamilton, will host the track cycling competition. It will include a 250-metre indoor wood track and seating for 2,500.

A 5,000-seat stadium at York University’s Keele Street campus in Toronto will be used as the athletics venue.

These projects will proceed under IO’s alternative financing and procurement model where risks associated with designing, constructing and financing the facilities are transferred to the private sector.

IO said the design and construction of the stadiums and velodrome will strive to incorporate sustainable development practices such as reduced greenhouse gas emissions, waste diversion and recycling and efficient use of energy, water and other resources.

The RFQ is the first step in the process to select a team to deliver the projects. Submissions will be reviewed to pre-qualify project teams with the design, development and construction experience as well as the financial experience and capacity to deliver projects of this size and complexity.

Pre-qualified teams will be invited to respond to a request for proposals in summer 2011.

Infrastructure Ontario and TO2015 are working with York University and the city of Hamilton to create the stadiums and velodrome.

The Pan/Parapan American Games is one of the world’s largest international multi-sport events, held every four years for athletes of the 42 member nations of the Pan American Sport Organization (PASO).

The Toronto 2015 Pan/Parapan American Games will draw 10,000 athletes and officials and feature 48 sports in 17 municipalities across the Golden Horseshoe. The Toronto 2015 Pan/Parapan American Games will take place July 10 to 26, 2015 and the Parapan Games August 7 to 14, 2015.

Source: http://dcnonl.com/article/id42944

deer, this was posted Feb. 9 at CNW:

[url=http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/February2011/09/c9274.html]http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/arch ... c9274.html[/url]

I'm assuming it is a go for sure but I don't think there has been an official announcement yet from Toronto 2015 as far as I can tell unless this is the official announcement. :?

I never saw the original newswire (that I recall) piece, but this is clearly good news and in my opinion shows us where this is headed. 8)

PS......if this was posted before and discussed already, maybe the Mods can nuke this thread for us 8)

It'll be interesting where the velodrome is put if it goes ahead.

I still say the Velodrome would be best suited at McMaster as this kind of racing would typically start at the varsity level and would continue to further McMaster's Athletic and Sports Medicine programs. That empty field at Mayfair Cresent is screaming for something, or even better, build it North East of Ron Joyce and connect the Velodrome to the trail system at Princess Point.

But if they are going to put the Velodrome downtown or at the WH, turn it into a CASINO after the games are over!!
Let's have a decent legacy after the games that the "people" can use and something that will not cost us a fortune to run in the future.

Here are some great videoes of cycling races

Manchester Velodrome British Cycling Team

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Kp62fu7qyQ&NR=1&feature=fvwp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Kp62fu7 ... ature=fvwp[/url]

Beijing 2008 - XBOX360 - Cycling - Team Pursuit

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKvHrfios2Q&feature=related]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKvHrfio ... re=related[/url]

I am quite looking forward to seeing some races at the Games.

Copenhagen UCI Track cycling world cup keirin final feb 09

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MedBqoFPv-o&feature=fvwrel]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MedBqoFP ... ure=fvwrel[/url]

IMO, this sport will be an instant hit.

I bet bicycle racing at the Montreal Velodrome wasn't promoted like this.

P.S.

I admire your great concern and passion, mikem, but where are your facts?

Also, the city wouldn't have been awarded the velodrome if it hadn't agreed
to use it for the recreation and training of young people after the Games.

But my concern about the Velodrome is that it will be constructed for a specialized event. Very few athletes take part in speed cycling on the 250 Metre indoor track. I think you stated that there is one in London? One facility in southern Ontario is more than enough. When you have a specialized sport like speed cycling, there are very few coaches and officials. We don't know how many young people would want to take part in speed cycling, I should imagine very few.

If the Velodrome could handle something like a 400Metre running track it would be a huge bonus for the city. Athletes of all ages and types would benefit from it. Old Joggers, school track teams, Olympic runners etc You don't need any expensive equipment to run on an indoor track, even a cheap pair of joggers from WalMart. You don't even need coaches present to watch over runners/joggers/walkers. Maintenance of the track is next to nil.

In the Velodrome you will need a very expensive bike, you will need to be very fit and brave. I can't see any older person who would attempt to go on that banked bike track. They will need experienced coaches present, do we have them in Hamilton? Someone to maintain the track, it will need a lot of maintenance, the bikes have to be maintained etc.

Just not worth the expense. Build something temporary that can be torn down after the games. Don't spend millions on this thing and then we find out that we can't afford to run it after the games. Or surprise......we can't find anyone to use it!

From the spec.

[url=http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/489884--hamilton-on-track-it-appears-for-velodrome]http://www.thespec.com/news/local/artic ... -velodrome[/url]

“TO2015 is expected to issue a statement Tuesday.”

A statement about the Stadium being accepted I would hope. :smiley:

Nice to see the two words, "West Harbour" stricken from the conversation lately...... :lol:

Mayor Bob was on the Bill Kelly show last week and at the end of it he commented on the Velodrome and sounded excited about it,he stated it was going into a "high need area of Hamilton."
I think that the Feds will drop some funding into the Velodrome.
The Feds criteria for funding is no funding for Professional Arenas or stadiums.
This would have total Amateur status and is eligible for funding assistance.
If the Feds would put an extra $15m into this we could end up with a very nice facility.

But would the average citizen be able to use it or is this facility just for the elite ?

I can tell you, I've ridden a bicycle most of my life, pure recreationally or for getting to school or work, not much of a cyclist though. But no way in heck am I getting in there on that track with a bike riding beside people who don't have a clue what they are doing, like me. Dangerous. It will not be for the average person. You're going to have to spend money to ride in there and it will be mainly for the elite, agree.

The velodrome in London Ont. is a privately run non profit facility and fairly inexpensive to paticipate in recreation.

From Ron from tigertown
"The Forest City Velodrome is financially supported in three ways:

Memberships, corporate partners and charitable donations.

It is a no-profit organization. I spoke to the man who runs the facility
and he tells me that the facility has been sustaining itself quite well.

Companies can gain corporate recognition through

logo placement on Forest Hill's web site,

corporate signage on the boards or the track itself,

billboard placement, acknowledgement in press releases etc."

Cost to use

These fees seem to be quite reasonable to me.

http://www.forestcityvelodrome.ca/membership_fees.php

Full Membership (1 year) $250 + OCA insurance ans all your riding is free

Family Membership (1 year) $250 for first + $100 for each additional family member

  • OCA insurance for each family member

Trial Membership (2 months; new members only) $100 + OCA insurance

Includes bike rental fees; the $100 is deducted from the cost of a
full membership if you become a full member after the trial period

Velo-Kids Membership (1 year)$100

Saturday Velo-Kids program and racing...Includes bike rental

Non-member Session Fee (2 hrs.)$30

Riders must have OCA insurance...does not include bike rental

OCA Insurance $30.00

It gets lots of use for racing from the community and surroundings

http://www.forestcityvelodrome.ca/race_calendar.php

Racers pay a fee to compete in races

Mar. 5th this year..the 2011 FCV Youth Championships

3 events in 8 categories.....

Boys and Girls (U13) Boys and Girls (U15)Boys and Girls (U17)

Boys and Girls (U19) - Mainly Licensed riders

Events: Flying Lap, Standing 500m tt,

age appropriate (1km, 2km & 3km).... with the
gold medal pursuit round for 10 or 15 laps.

Entry Fee: $20.00

Saturday Mar. 26 FCV Grand Prix Series

Racing for all categories

Saturday Apr. 2 Mary Kelly Memorial 2011

the 2011 Mary Kelly Memorial Womens night of Racing.

This is a 138 metre indoor track
The Hamilton track will be a 250 metre indoor which is the standard for elite competition

I think the biggest obstacle for most people won't be access to the facilities but access to the proper equipment. Specialized bikes are needed, and they're not cheap. Bike rentals at the Forest City Velodrome in London are $10.00 per visit. It's not bad for a one-off affair, but to do that regularly would get costly. They have memberships for $250.00 per year, which is lower than some gym memberships, but even if you only go once a week have to rent a bike each time, that would more than triple the cost to $770.00 per year, or 65.00 per month.

Training is available, and I think required, for beginners, so riders won't have to worry about the lack of experience of other riders.

There are 178 Ontario cycling clubs in the Ontario Cycling Association

[url=http://www.ontariocycling.org/clubs/ontario-cycling-association-affiliated-clubs/]http://www.ontariocycling.org/clubs/ont ... ted-clubs/[/url]

They would all want to use the facility year round.
There are lots of cycle clubs in western NY State to use it.
Maybe there is something to this.

Name 5 of those clubs that have short track cycling as their primary purpose. Name 5 that have any members that participate in short track. Sure there are millions of cyclists and thousands of them are elite cyclists but only a handful of that group are short track cyclists. The above post's assertion that there are 178 cycling clubs that will book the veledrome is therefore suspect at best and far more likely to be completely false

When I said that "they all would want to use the facility" I meant the clubs not the members and not all the clubs would want to use it either. To say "all" is not right.
However people in Cycling clubs like to ride bicycles and I'm sure alot would like to get into it.
There are alot of Cycling clubs.
There are not alot of velodromes in use so there would not be as many short track riders in the clubs but with a world class facility used for world class competions maybe alot of these clubs would take advantage of the facility.
The Velodrome is going forward, I hope it is put to good use.

There are in fact 33 of those clubs that list "track" as a club interest. So much for 5, eh?

It seems that "road" and "BMX" are the most popular simply because the ease of use is much higher. I also suspect that if a velodome was purpose built within reasonable travel times, that the popularity of said interest would further increase.

I like helping AKT find facts and reason! :smiley: