is this a good risk??

[AriusReturns]

@"legalbeagle"

@"AriusReturns"

@"legalbeagle"

Thanks for the link. Glad it's not trolling (not glad about what I heard though).

I'll give DD kudos for being frank, but not sure about the attitude. He has a right to be peaved - who wouldn't be - but he ought to be the team player that his mentor (Crandall) has been all these years. He could have said something like "bring it on - I welcome the competition and the coaches will see that I am the better qb. I'm going to continue to work to EARN the starting spot., etc.", at least or particularly to the media. He should have stuck to his first "no comment".

I was (and still am) looking forward to DD starting (he may not have parlayed to the media exactly what was said to him by coaches/management) but he's gotta put team before himself and his mentor.

I think what DD said is pretty understandable. He HAS put the team first all year. when he went out and had success on the field, he repeatedly said, "this is Marcus' team". Now on the turn of a dime, it apparently isn't Marcus' team...and it isn't his either? this stuff does not bode well. First really big challenge for Ken Miller. If he can sell this to the players, great. But this type of thing can tear a team apart in a hurry. Biggest mistake Roy Shivers ever made was bringing Henry Burris back in 2003. The team suffered then and the next year and cost us Kevin Glenn. Let's hope for a better outcome here.

Not saying he hasn't put the team first up to now, but the duty to do so doesn't stop even when a humdinger like this goes down.

As for tearing a team apart in a hurry, you are right that it can happen. But is it the move of a GM trying to improve the team in a weak position (ask any non-Rider fan where Sask's weakness is and I suspect that they will tell you it's qb, even ahead of receivers after all the injuries) or is it attitude and public comments like ones Darian stated that do so? Probably a combination of both - but it can't be hung just on the GM (don't think even Mike would say that Tillman was not honestly trying to improve the team with this move ... whether he, in fact, is succeeding to do so with this move is another question!).

Given that it is a humdinger, I think what Durant said was fairly calm. This has disaster written all over it, and like I said, if Ken can sell this, give him the coach of the year award right now.

[legalbeagle]

Don't envy his challenge for a minute. We wish Ken well

[Thryllin]

@"Thryllin"

Can Bishop learn an offence in a week ?

Is Durant healthy enough to start ?

Did Tillman have a plan before the trade or did it by impulse because the chance was there ?

What is the status of Jyles ?

[AriusReturns]

@"Thryllin"

@"Thryllin"

Can Bishop learn an offence in a week ?

Is Durant healthy enough to start ?

Did Tillman have a plan before the trade or did it by impulse because the chance was there ?

What is the status of Jyles ?

He hasn't learned the offense in TO in seven years, so I'm going to say no to the first one.
No to the second.
I am sure he had a plan--not a good plan, but a plan nonetheless!
I don't know, but he better be hurt or ET's plan looks even worse....

[legalbeagle]

@"Thryllin"

@"Thryllin"

Can Bishop learn an offence in a week ?

Is Durant healthy enough to start ?

Did Tillman have a plan before the trade or did it by impulse because the chance was there ?

What is the status of Jyles ?

My view on what are very pertinent questions:

1. I don't think that would be reasonable to expect of anyone, especially at the qb position. If he starts on Labour Day, then I will be as critical/cynical as Arius (until he wins the game, if he wins it!! - I can be bought out by success!!).

2. I wish I knew because I think that is key - if he is, he should start and each game he wins, he keeps Bishop off the field, imho. Austin, do you have any inside info on this?

3. No one on this site can say with authority - any other comment would be speculation. According to jm02 in another thread, she heard an interview of Tillman as evidence that this was somewhat premeditated in that discussions started before the Edm game.

4. Again, don't know. Austin, can you call Tony??

[BigU]

No way Bishop can start this week.

And realistically Durant should be starting if Crandell is turfed.

[deflated]

DD is our future, that is a given, maybe it has become painfully clear to the coaching staff that we need a help at receiver. I can see Bishop making a journey too BC through Winnipeg,and in the process we get our receiver

[Thryllin]

So, we get Bishop from Toronto to give to Winnipeg, who in turn sends him to BC ???
. . . Then we end up with a receiver ???

:| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :|

Which receiver do we end with in that intricate web of transfers ?

[AriusReturns]

@"Thryllin"

So, we get Bishop from Toronto to give to Winnipeg, who in turn sends him to BC ???
. . . Then we end up with a receiver ???

:| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :|

Which receiver do we end with in that intricate web of tranfers ?

Yesterday, I heard Clermont......no I didn't believe it....

[deflated]

Yes,i know, it's a brilliant theory.
An inter division trade of a QB can be bad karma, thus the move to Winnipeg, whom has an overabundance of receivers.
Winnipeg needs help on D,and I believe JJ has a busted up hand in BC....Even if JJ is a-ok BC still needs QB help

[Dust]

Still a week go to until the game, until I hear anything from Tillman or Miller about who is the starter I'm not going to take much from an emotional interview from Durant.

[Fantuz4life]

So Crandell is gone for sure?

[Thryllin]

From what I hear . . . as for sure as an assumption can be.

[Thryllin]

Clermont is argueably one of the CFL's best receivers (Slot or not), that would be one hell of a trade.

Especially considering Clermont just signed a new contract before the last season ended.

[Fantuz4life]

i think Crandell for clermont would be an amazing trade. did you hear anything about getting clermont?

[BigU]

No way on earth Wally gives us Clermont for Crandell.

[legalbeagle]

Is this how mountains get made out of molehills? That game "telephone" come to mind? This thread is getting so far-fetched in its very short life that a pulitzer prize-winning fictional novelist couldn't have thought this up. Please, everyone get real.

[redstallion]

Wally will not be giving the riders anything!

[Thryllin]

I agree.

[cjtdog]

well I think marcus had his chance and the way he looked the last 2 games so in come mb it just seems that marcus doesn't have the stuff to lead as for the clip with dd he stated he was told that mb is starting well did the coaches say last week he is most probable back for the banjo bowlin the peg the week after this to let his ribs heal proper