Investors Group Field Was a Mistake.

Leave it to Bungles to whine about something that's perfectly fine, if not one of the nicest facilities in the league. There's nothing wrong with IGF. When you have a bad team, people don't want to go watch, it's just reality.

And yes there's people upset about the new stadium in Saskatchewan, but it's mostly the same people that complain about everything. Most rational people realize a new facility was needed.

A late season game on a cold evening with your team out of the playoffs and has not looked very good or entertaining in the past 6 games? I think 22k is actually a good crowd.

aside from last night, the Bombers have averaged nearly 30,000 this season (29,755 to be exact) for a last place team who is out of the playoffs and with a long standing record of futility.

Most clubs would be drawing flies at this time but the Bomber faithful still come out in good numbers for a subpar on-field product.

The capacity of IGF (33,500) is fine and will regularly sell out with a formidable team.

A couple of factors were that the Bombers wanted to have enclosed endzones to reduce the wind effects during games. Rather than just put up blank walls, they added seats to the endzones...and have Bombers soldout the entire 33,500-seats for several games already, so there's some justification for it's size...along with 55,000 seats for the Lions stadium, 60,000 seats for the Esks and 31,000 seats for the Argos, for example. I guess the entire league is stupid then?

Another factor is CFL team's can't make money unless they have 30,000 seats. Teams might be able to sellout 24,000 seats, which looks nice for the camera's but those teams will only be break-even propositions at best. If the owner is satisfied to never make money and not have additional seating available for huge games and playoff matches, I guess it makes sense to have reduced seating capacity. I think when the Riders come to town, the Bombers are thankful to have the additional seats to sell. :thup:

Yet another thing you will be wrong about. Do you actually go into shock when you are right about something?

If he does, then maybe we should all be agreeing with him :slight_smile:

so misinformed. This kills demand. kills the big event nature of the game. You want to create scarcity thus increasing ticket price and create artificial ticket scarcity.

Stadiums should have the capability to easily expand in the future. Not built with thousands of empty seats for the sake of hoping attendance increases. Whats stopping ppl from buying the cheapest seats and moving to the thousands of unoccupied better seats?

And why would there be higher demand in 10 to 15 years? The NFL and MLB are downsizing because attendance numbers are down due to the high quality of HD TVS and hope theatre systems as well as having every game on TV. Thats only going to get better, cutting into attendance more.

not sure where your pulling your info from but its flat out wrong. Commonwealth is at about 56 000 seats when they put in the new seats. Rogers Centre as 50 000 seats. They just choose not to sell the 19 000 seats in the upper bowl because there is no demand for them.

Also you are so wrong about the 30 000 vs 24 000 seats. Ivor wynne had 30 000 seats and they weren’t making money when sold out. THF has 24 000 seats and they are making millions of dollars. There are way more premium tickets as well the avg ticket prices is much higher than at Ivor Wynne because there is smaller capacity. Simple science of supply and demand. Also ppl are willing to pay more to sit in an actual seat as opposed to a wooden plank.

Your whole logic is ridiculous. Bob Young isn’t satisfied to break even. He is now making money at THF and that was his goal when he bought the cats. To make the team financially viable so when he sells the new owner doesn’t have to save them from life support like he did. THF is made for easy expansion in the endzone. If demand warrants it they can expand an ednzone and move the patios to the top of the endzone or have field level patios like in Seattle Dallas and New York. You don’t build a 35 000 seat stadium just beacuse one game a year (the labour day classic) will sell it out. What happens to all the other games when you have 10 000 empty seats and it drives your ticket price and demand down? Its science, its economics.

The same can be said for Ottawa. They are making much more money in the downsize TD place as opposed to Frank Clare when it had 5000 more seats

Back on topic I think we’re jumping the gun on IGF. The team has been garabage its the end of the year. IMO i would have built the stadium at 30 000 seats but 33 500 isn’t the end of the world. Get a good team that makes the playoffs and they will sell it out.

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And you wonder why your not taken seriously. Leave the other teams alone and be happy we have a good situation right now.

[url=http://www.hamiltonnews.com/news/tiger-cats-look-to-score-on-field-and-in-pocketbook-this-year/]http://www.hamiltonnews.com/news/tiger- ... this-year/[/url]

“We are recreating a feeling we used to have,? said Gibson, who applauded Hamilton’s support for the club last year when the team when to the Grey Cup inRegina. “This is a tremendous opportunity to thank our fans.?
Gibson expects the club to return a profit this season after experiencing “incredible? ticket sales. He said the club has 15,000 season tickets, less than 1,000 from reaching its 16,000-seat goal.
And with the club level sold out, the 30 private suits gone, and the patio areas on the upper and lower areas, and lounge area located in the south end zone sold out, plus the increase in corporate sponsorships, Gibson says the Tiger-Cats will have a sustainable financial model the club can lay the foundation on for years.
“We had 1,000 premier seats and 30 suites we didn’t have before.?

can we stop making threads about every sub par attended game

There should be a catch all thread labeled "2014 team attendance"

no need for a new thread every time

I agree the location is a challenge now but that’s only because the BRT or LRT isn’t in place yet, there was actually some forward thinking put into this location, which doesn’t always happen here. You also have to remember it’s more than just a football stadium for us, if it was just for football, then you could argue the size, but it’s not, so your comments are uninformed to say the least.

Merged with the attendance topic.

You have no clue ! The Bombers have had big crowds all year ,now that we out of the playoffs the crowds will be smaller. It’s a great stadium and Hamilton’s is a joke … two grandstands and 24 k… Winnipeg has always had great attendance … unlike the Hamilton who never sold out and had awful attendance .Just as bad as Toronto or worse. Absolute stupid thread !!!

No issue at all getting to the game ! People go early and tailgate and parking is easy .Building a 24 k stadium in Winnipeg would be a joke . In southern Ontario where CFL support is fickle and 22k is considered a great crowd a small stadium works .

It does look like a very nice stadium on television. The Bombers aren't playing well but once they are I'm sure it'll be packed or closed to packed most games.

But that’s just not true. You completely forgot about the “Private suites” the “Club Seats”, the field level tables and end zone patios !!!
You need to do the math.
The average seat price of the 1,000 Club seats in Hamilton and Ottawa are $250 to $350 PER GAME and in both cities they are sold out. That is roughly equivalent to around 5,000 regular seats at the CFL $50 average.
Both cities have also sold out the “Private Suites”, these corporate booths are around $35,000 per season, and that’s roughly equivalent to around 3,000 fans.
Just add up the 22,500 regular seats at around $50 average and the Suites and Clubs and field level seats. end zone patio party zones and you easily have a 30,000 (equivalent) plus crowd.
That’s the trend these days, don’t put in as many seats and put in the premium suites and seats, there seems to be a demand for that rather than cheap end zone seats

slimjim wrote: Just add up the 22,500 regular seats at around $50 average and the Suites and Clubs and field level seats. end zone patio party zones and you easily have a 30,000 plus crowd. That's the trend these days,
Agree although every city is different, look at the differences in the stadiums the Seahawks play in vs the one the Giants/Jets play in. Very different but both work.

Well, I disagree with the title of this thread.

I've attended games in each CFL stadium (save for the revamped one in Ottawa), and I am of the opinion that Investor's Group Field is the finest.

Hmmm… another joke thread from Bungle… par for the course kasps… if everything works out, a bunch of us Sask fans from the Jaw are going to go to the Peg for the Banjo Bowl… should be a great time! It would great to meet up with a few Bomber fans off the forum here, and talk Riders/Bombers… :thup: