If Ray is done, will Hamilton finish in 1st place?

Of course they will.

No other eastern team has an effective offense, and Hamilton’s D is showing signs of improvement and will only get better.

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hate to say it but lets not get to ahead of the games in hand one man dont make a team

without Ray, the Argos will sputter.
He is the engine of that team.

Except the last game of 2012 and the fantastic showing by the Cats against Collaros et al.....

I believe we have a better DC this season and a defense that is building. Last year there was Casey Creehan. I think the result could be better this time around.

Best not to write off the team down the road just yet. Wiser to plan for an equally dangerous opponent, no matter the circumstances.

Seems to me we played them in the playoffs last year where they used mostly backups and 2nd stringers, and we still lost. Granted, this year is a lot different but let's not get ahead of ourselves and take it one step at a time.

This. Hall of Fame QBs do not grow on trees, don't we know!

I think Collaros has shown a few sparks of future greatness thus far, but it is way too early to hitch a wagon to that horse and expect Secretariat II.

Oski Wee Wee,

Russ

how easily we forget the utter catastrophe that was the 2012 TiCats Defense. :stuck_out_tongue:
nearly every offensive player in the league earned POTW status vs the Cats last season.

With Ray at the helm, the Argos offense is a well oiled machine, and was poised for another great output until the injury early in the game.
(5 of 6, 1 TD on his first series)
Collaros meanwhile, managed few sustained drives throughout the game, while scoring a mere 7 points in over 3 quarters of play.

no question the still green Collaros has a bright future ahead, although unrealistic to believe the Argos will not miss a beat without Remarkable Ray.
There is no denying his absence will hurt the team dramatically, especially over an indefinite period.

I wonder how long Ray will be on the DL for??

Tangledweb wrote:

[b]"how easily we forget the utter catastrophe that was the 2012 TiCats Defense.

nearly every offensive player in the league earned POTW status vs the Cats last season.

With Ray at the helm, the Argos offense is a well oiled machine, and was poised for another great output until the injury early in the game.

(5 of 6, 1 TD on his first series)

Collaros meanwhile, managed few sustained drives throughout the game, while scoring a mere 7 points in over 3 quarters of play.

no question the still green Collaros has a bright future ahead, although unrealistic to believe the Argos will not miss a beat without Remarkable Ray.

There is no denying his absence will hurt the team dramatically, especially over an indefinite period."[/b]

Ray will be missed, no doubt.

However, it’s not likely that they planned for Zach Collaros to see much, if any, action last night, so he probably only had a handful of plays to use.

They will know very soon if Ray will be in the lineup this week and, if not, will plan more effectively for Collaros to have the game.

Perhaps, this next encounter will be more telling as to how they will survive without their starter.

Why does Ray have to stay hurt for HAM to finish first ?

All the best to RR, I like the guy and don't wish bad on him at all. But no question if he's out, everyone has a better chance to beat the Boatmen.

If only that were true.....it wasn't a play-off game,but the last game of the season that your thinking about.We had to defeat the A's to make the play-offs,they were already in,hence the use of 2nd stringers......BUT!!!! That was last year!!!!The majority of that defence that played that day are long gone,as well as the head coach,OC and DC. Tis a new year,a new regime,a new attitude....last year was last year,one I choose to forget as a fan of this team.We still got the A's twice more this season plus the Al's 3 times and 1 more meeting with the B.B.'s. To round it out we have 2 vs the Nags and 2 vs the Leos.There is no reason we can't win at least 7 or 8 of our final 10 games,and end up anywhere from 10-8 to 12-6 on the season.We accomplish this and regardless of if Ray plays or not,first in the East will be ours. :rockin: :thup:

I hope Ray has a speedy recovery and the Argos are healthy when we beat them. :wink:

A strong team in Toronto is best for OUR LEAGUE.

Let's not be too smug about Toronto's woes....we need to stay healthy and improve ourselves.

1st Place???, I want the Grey Cup!!!
Just think of it.
The parade will be the biggest and longest in pro sports history.
Start in Guelph, down Highway #6, cut thru Dundas,
Go through Mac-Westdale just to disrupt things ( just for you Earl, :slight_smile: )
Then through the City, whipping the adoring fans into a frenzy,
Ending at the 90% finished Tim Horton’s Field. :rockin:
This team has improved through the season both on Defense and the ground game on Offense.
Keep on improving every game. Make it happen.

I love your thinking. I can't wait to go to that parade. :smiley:

Isn't he kinda small to play nose tackle? lol

I was struck by how one of Captain's pics reminded me of an infamous pic from the first issue of the Toronto Sun... especially since Ray was wearing the retro uniform.


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A good omen?
No offense to Ricky. I hope he makes a quick return. We wanna' beat the best.

I cannot imagine, though, that the CFL wants an Eastern Final in a 13,000-seat stadium.

I think we all need to be realistic about the Cats. Who have they beaten this year? Their 4 victories were against 2 teams who, before the late game today, have a combined record of 2 - 9. If they beat BC, then I will be getting excited about their chances.

:rockin: :cowboy:

Who have we beaten.
We don't control the schedule.
I hear this from the talking heads on TSN also.
You beat the teams you play,
So we start 1 and 4 and lose because we are decimated by injuries,
Is that an excuse for losing, NO!!!
You are not allowed to make excuses for losing.
So also you are not allowed to make excuses for why you won,
Like it is less of a victory, a win is a win.
How about if Gable catches that pass in game 1 against the Arblows,
Then we are now 5 and 3 and the Arblows are 4 and 4.
But he dropped it and it is over, no excuses.
Just win Baby!!