“Not too good,” Lemon said when asked how he was feeling. “I have a concussion. I am dealing with some issues right now. I will take a look at this week. I don’t know what the next step is, but I will talk to the training staff and see what (the prognosis) is.”
“It’s too early to tell,” Argos head coach Jim Barker said of Lemon’s status.
“He got knocked funny. Who knows? It could be nothing or it could mean that he is out for the year. I have no idea.”
the bolded part sounds pretty darn good to me…hopefuly never see him again!
12 games into the season, the guy is just as brutal as he was in the pre-season.
michael bishop v2.0
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Argos 6-6 and tied for 2nd in the East? How many people expected the Argos to be at .500 right now? I agree with the others, stick with Lemon (unless he is injured). This is his first season. No one should've expected him to light it up. The funny thing is he's playing almost as well as Durant, but I don't hear anyone calling for his head. Lemon has a better completion percentage (62.8% to 60.0%), and their TD/INT ratios are pretty close (16/16 for Durant, 10/14 for Lemon).
bell looked better then cleo lemon in the pre-season, and deserved to be the starter. argos management / coaches had an agenda, and cleo was going to be 'their guy', regardless of which player was the better QB.
the argos are 6-6 with a lemon at QB, and probably would have been no worse than 6-6 with bell as thier starter.
much like bishop was 11-1 as toronto's starter in 2006, cleo lemon has benifited from those playing defence and special teams.
the thing about lemon, is, he has actually REGRESSED as the season has gone on.
he hit his peak when the argos upset the Als and found themselves 5-2. he has been terrible since then.
he either moves the chains, then throws a 'michael bishop', OR cant move the chains at all.
the argos are playing .500 football IN SPITE of their lousy QB.
he shows no agility, no ability to read defences, no composure under pressure, a habit of throwing 'bishops' in the red-zone, fumbles almost everytime he is hit, and IMO no potential to ever be more than he is right now; a LEMON.
Did Argos get a Cadillac or Lemon?
While opposing defences have been putting the squeeze on Lemon, I’m not sure the Argos should sour on him yet. The team could give Lemon aid by cutting down on his reads and keeping a fullback in to block. But the bell could be ringing for the Argos season…just who is the real Lemon?
If almost as well is not 1200 less yards, 6 less TD's, almost 300 yards less rushing yards and 3 less rushing td's.
That being said I don't think Toronto should give up on Lemon. While Bell has a lot of potential, it's not like he has a tonne of experience either. Quite frankly I think it will be better for Bell to spend the rest of the year on the bench, getting his few reps in, but not having the whole thing on his shoulders.
To me Lemon looks like a so so qb, NFL or CFL, whatever but he is learning the game and seems to have the will to succeed so yes, have to give him and the team a few years, he's shown enough to justify that unless the Argos see someone else as no. 1 then he's a goner. But I don't know. Hey, I like him, he's just not used to the fast paced nature of the CFL game and that will take some getting used to. But seems to have the skills.
Lemon was solid for awhile to get this far with stats plus for Toronto to exceed all honest expectations as we saw here in the offseason, but now the Toronto offence has become too predictable and it's not all Lemon's fault in that regard.
With the right sets as used as I explained in the "Throw Back Tight End" thread, complete with video, of play-action passes and the clever use of screens mixed in as well as a legitimate deep threat next year and continued solid running game with a back like Boyd, Lemon and the Argos offence will be much better after only one season with him leading it.
They've ground this Lemon for about as much fresh-squeezed juice as he has for this season though.
Looks a little better than Calvillo in his first season ever. And we all know how Calvillo turned out so maybe the kids not as hopeless as some want the world to believe. I'ld stick with him and see if he improves.
dcmoses, bear in mind that that was Calvillo's first professional season, whereas Lemon has been in the NFL almost continually since 2002 (sat out most of 2009). I would expect a bit more from a guy who's been down south for that long.
Looking at his NFL stats, he only needs to attempt 31 more passes this season to have more attempts in the CFL than in his entire NFL career.
I certainly wouldn't write him off. It's his first full season as a starter. Inconsistency comes with the territory no matter how many seasons a QB was on someone's PR or holding the clipboard on the sidelines.
Maybe we can work a trade out. Argos get Quinton Porter and we get...well I'm not really sure, but I'd be happy to see Porter go. In fact, I think Porter for Lemon isn't completely outrageous. Well then again it is Porter.