Hamilton's own Pat Quinn, RIP

Born in Hamilton in 1943
His Father worked in the steel mills
He always talked about Hamilton and the value of growing up in the city's east end. He had great stories about his father, pickup games at Mahony and Parkdale Parks, and the toughness, but deep soul, of the City he grew up in.
Another great Hamiltonian

I believe I remember seeing him play for the old Tiger Cubs, in the even older Forum on Barton Street.

Yeah big loss for the city even though he didn't live hear any longer, I met him a few times once in Montreal for a Leaf game and I told him I was from the Hammer and he stood there and talked to us for a while about the city. A true Hamiltonian at heart. RIP Big Man

RIP Pat Quinn AND Murray Oliver

Two Hamilton greats

RIP Mr. Quinn, you will be missed

Steve Milton wrote a great article on Pat Quinn that you can read here: http://www.thespec.com/sports-story/515 ... -hamilton/

There were so much that he accomplished, and something I didn't know what that he also starred in football at Cathedral. I suppose he chose hockey instead, where he would go on to win several awards, including an Olympic gold medal.

And Milton sure was right when he said he passed away at a way-too-young age.

Pat Quinn will be missed and remembered.

Thanks for posting, what an outstanding story by Milton

When the Cats are playing in Vancouver this weekend,
Pat will look down on BC Place from above with his smiling Irish eyes
and will Hamilton to win the Championship!

Vancouver here is having a special tribute at the Canucks game tonight going to be very emotional and I recommend to do something at the grey cup this weekend also.

I remember Pat saying in a documentary, that his maternal grandfather played for the Tiger- Cats. I believe his grandfather’s nickname was snooze.

His grandfather on his mother’s side was the captain of a Hamilton Tigers team that won the Grey Cup. His dad, Jack, was a firefighter and the first president of the local firemen’s union. His sister became a cop.
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Quinn loved to tell stories about his father, Jack, and the blue-collar neighbourhood he was raised in East Hamilton called Mahoney Park. ...

Jack was a hockey player, but a better football player. He captained the 1919 Hamilton Tigers to the Grey Cup championship. He later became a firefighter and head of the local firefighter’s union. Quinn’s sister was a police officer.

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Somebody's got it wrong.

Also, was no Grey Cup in 1919.

Snooze Ireland played for the Tigers in 1914, 1919 and 1921 according to http://www.htcaa.ca/history-rosters.asp?roster=HTG

Here it is...

George "Snooze" Ireland, grandfather of Pat Quinn, played for the Hamilton Tigers, 1915 Grey Cup Champs.

A great bio of Snooze! http://cobwfa.ca/COBWFA2011/images/docs ... 0102nd.pdf


HISTORY >> Grey Cup >> 1915 1915 – Hamilton Tigers 13, Toronto Rowing and Athletic Association 7 Venue: Varsity Stadium Location: Toronto, ON Date: November 20 Attendance: 2,808 Winning Coach: Liz Marriott

The Hamilton Tigers won their second Grey Cup in three years in a controversial win over the Toronto Rowing and Athletic Association.

Toronto outplayed Hamilton on a wet and slippery Varsity Stadium field in the first half. Despite this, T.R. and A.A. could only manage a 4-1 lead at halftime. George Bickle booted a field goal for Toronto in the first quarter.

The Tigers came out charging in the second half, and before they knew it, T.R. and A.A. was down 7-4. Jack Erskine carried the ball 15 yards around the end for a try, which was converted by Sam Manson.

Before the end of the third quarter Hal DeGruchy kicked a pair of lengthy punts for rouges to cut the Toronto deficit to 7-6.

But the Tigers scored the winning points in the fourth quarter on a controversial touchdown when Norman Lutz found an opening and squeezed through for a try. Toronto’s wings gave up on the play believing an offside interference penalty would be called. It was not, and Hamilton had a 12-6 advantage.

T.R. and A.A. had a golden opportunity to tie the score when an onside kick gave them the ball on Hamilton’s one-yard line. But the Tigers held their ground on three straight plays, nixing Toronto’s opportunity. Both teams traded rouges to end the scoring.

The usually subdued Toronto crowd was so enraged with referee “Ready? Dixon following the game that a mob of people went after him to give him a verbal lashing. The police stepped in before things got out of control, and ushered Dixon into the safety of the T.R. and A.A. dressing room.

In a move that confused some people in later years, the Tigers had a shield made for the Grey Cup in honour of their 1908 championship team. This was, in part, revenge against the University of Toronto for holding onto the trophy in years which it did not win the Dominion championship in 1912 and 1913. The 1908 shield still remains attached to the original base of the trophy.

With the First World War raging in Europe, both teams donated their share of the gate receipts to patriotic funds. It was the last time the Grey Cup was contested until after the war.

Hmmmm. Photo 1919 Grey Cup Champs

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When WW1 broke out George helped to form the 205th Battalion and signed up March 2nd, 1916.The 205th was known as the Tiger Battalion because of the many well known Tiger Rugby Football players and supporters who joined up. There were many athletes in the battalion's 602 soldiers who included representation from the different H.A.A.A. teams. In February 1917, 250 men of the 205th Battalion (Hamilton Tigers) were drafted into the ranks of the 164th (Halton Dufferin) Battalion.

George Malcolm (Snooze) Ireland was discharged at Hamilton April 1, 1919

George and family post warUpon his return home he was successful at fielding a Rugby Football Team as Captain of the 1919 Hamilton Tigers of the Ontario Rugby Football Union (ORFU). During WW 1 ORFU play was suspended and there was not a Grey Cup game from 1916 till 1920.

After the war, a monument with the 25 names of Hamilton athletes who did not return from the war alive was unveiled at the H Triple A Grounds, (HAAA). The Tigers would hold a religious service at the monument at the beginning of every season. The Prince of Wales honoured surviving Hamilton veterans with medals at the grounds on October 18, 1919.

In October 1919 George married Irene Wade and they raised a family at the house his mother had built at 32 Wentworth Street North in Hamilton.

Several of Snooze’s grandchildren and great grandchildren are excellent at sports but none to this date have excelled as much as his grandson Patrick Quinn who played and coached hockey in the N.H.L.Pat lived with Grandpa George and Grandma Irene on Wentworth Street. During his junior hockey days in Hamilton Pat played in the same arena that George had played the first game of hockey so many years earlier and at the indoor arena in Hamilton which was at Wentworth and Barton Streets.He could easily walk from 32 Wentworth St. N. to the “Barn? on Barton.
An obit written by Hamilton Spectator Sports Writer Ivan Miller following his death on October 26, 1964 said this about George.

“Few football fans of today will have knowledge of the Hamilton Alerts, the old Maroon and Grey that contributed to the city’s football glory.Memories of the other years were recalled again Monday with the announcement of the death of George M. “Snooze? Ireland.From 1905, “Snooze? battled for the Alerts, a city league team that came out of the old East End YMCA, at the corner of Barton Street and Westinghouse Avenue.

In 1906, when the Alerts won the city intermediate grid championship, through 1907 and 1908, when they captured the city league title, and in 1910 when the junior Canadian championship fell to them, “Snoozer? was enjoying life with some of the greatest. These teams were forerunners of the great Alerts’ senior team that came along in 1911 and the following year startled all and the sundry, including Tigers and Argonauts, by winning the Grey Cup.

From early days with the club “Snooze? had many of the best including Red Flannery and many others. George switched to Tigers, as did quite a few other old Alerts, when they all couldn’t quite make the big club in 1912. In intermediate and senior company with the Bengals, the gang carried on until the First World War called. As a Tiger (Hamilton Tigers, now the Hamilton Tiger Cats) Ireland and other Alerts’ grads got to know and play with most of the gridiron greats of the day and they had their fun at Woodlands Park, the East End “Y? front yard, the old HAAA field, the old Rosedale Field in Toronto, Lansdowne Park with one stand, the old Molson Stadium at Montreal, before the days of the modern stand and the big crowds.

On the way through, “Snooze? Ireland managed to work up lasting friendships with everyone from humble workers to bank presidents. The National Steel Car War Veterans’ Association knew him well.His friends were legion and lasting and it was a delight, to reminisce with the veteran the other day.A familiar figure for years at the Leander Club’s Old Boys? annual nights, he was thrilled only a short time ago with the reunion of himself, Norm Clark and the veteran trainer, “Doc? Heddle, not to mention “Pinky? Lewis, with whom affection through many years was entirely mutual.?

George Ireland and Robert Kirkpatrick Staff Sergeant's 205th Battalion, the
Hamilton Tiger Battalion also known as the Sportsman's Battalion

Nice tribute to Quinn before the Canucks game last night. They will be wearing a decal to honour him the rest of the season.

Leafs will do a tribute Saturday night on HNIC.

Here is the Canuck's tribute - http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/gott ... pat-quinn/

Cap'n, thank you for posting

Pat Quinn's roots grew deep into Hamilton and his cherished Wife Sandra is a Hamilton native also.

Its great to hear that one of my alumni from Catherdral has done well in life. All Hamiltonians should be proud of Pat Quinn.

Not to be forgotten here (as already mentioned) is Murray Oliver who, like Quinn, played for the Hamilton Tiger Cubs.

I saw many of the games they played in and they are a tribute to our city. R.I.P.



Thanks for the photo, Cap'n. It sure brings back some wonderful memories. :thup: