I can understand the way you feel.
But for me I rather the Ticats walk a way then build in the core.
Put it close to the 403 or QEW or Redhill
too me it just makes more Since.
when i want to hear from non hamilton residents about things that effect my home or mill rate i will ask whether it be onknight caretaker or whomever
ballard: And when I hear people turning away from an opportunity to improve the downtown for whatever reason,including mill rates, it makes me not want to move back there. I have often thought about moving back.
i wish people would stop complaining about downtown hamilton core, toronto’s eaton center isn’t empty because of the shootings,stabbing that has occured there over the years. no matter where you live or go there is going to be someone who doesn’t want to live like civilized people if there is such a place let us know. burlington isn’t that safe either for that matter. maybe with the stadium downtown with different events going on the more poeple going there should help the area and drive the undesirables away
Burlington is Safer then Hamilton that my Point.
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How many Homicides have happen Burlington compared to Hamilton in past 10 years.
If you check Burlington had less then 3 Hamilton had quite a few more
Yeah, but living in Burlington causes you to die a slower more painful death. Sure, it’s not at the hands of an assailant, but the result is the same. You start driving really slowly, your eyesight goes, you start hiking your pants up really high, wearing cardigan sweaters. It’s not pretty.
Trust me, I’ve seen it. I’m convinced that living in that city causes you to immediately transform into the appearance of a 75 year old – because there’s no way that many truly elderly people could live in one city.
Any city is like sports to some extent, you want trouble, you put yourself in the situation and provoke it. Look, when you're at an event in downtown Hamilton with thousands of people, where you park is likely where lots of other people are and you leave the game about the same time, people are around you, pretty safe. If you're downtown alone or with your partner at midnight and wandering the back streets to get to your car, well, like any city, there is a bit more risk there.
Hey, squeeky clean London where I grew up has areas as bad as Hamilton if you're looking for trouble, it's there, everywhere. And same with Burlington, and Burlington smells down by Joe Brant Hospital with the latrine (waste plant) there, I avoid smelly Burlington there since my last time I went there and nearly gaged. Way worse than Hamilton steel smells IMHO. I wouldn't live in Burlington, doesn't do anything for me to be honest. A bigger version of Woodstock, nothing agains't Woodstock BTW. I think they both have Junior B hockey teams, same type of city. 
Just kidding, Burlington, Hamilton it's all the same city to me in many respects, Golden Horesehoe.
ballard: One more thing…where do you think the 100 million plus is coming from to help build the stadium?
Answer: non-resident taxpayers across the country. Including me. So I demand my say on those grounds in addition to being a Tiger-Cat fan for half a century. 
Onknight I live an own a condo in the downtown area and have a friend in my building in a wheelchair and we have never run into trouble downtown and he goes back and forth to the movie theatre on his own.I also believe you have more stories than Walt Disney. It is a real shame just because you might not get a stadium where you want it that you feel the need to run down the area where I enjoy living. Why don't you keep your better than everyone else attitude on the other side of the Skyway Bridge. The good people of Hamilton need to get our city back in shape and people like you don't help one bit. :thdn:
Its begining to sound like a soap opera! Enough is enough. The Ti-cats and the city have to get there stuff together! Its all becoming the joke of the city! Grow up and lets get the stadium built! If future event holders are seeing this go on, i can bet they wont want to come to Hamilton NOW!! GO CATS GO
I also believe you have more stories than Walt Disney.
ballboy, come on, onknight being a fiction writer extraordinaire, come on, he's as factual as it gets, well at least as much as I am. 
But onknight, I bet ballboy likes your stories as much as I do really, and yes, I do like them.
Hey, bottom line, you're a passionate TigerCat fan and that's all that matters to me in the end. :thup:
Its begining to sound like a soap opera! Enough is enough. The Ti-cats and the city have to get there stuff together! Its all becoming the joke of the city! Grow up and lets get the stadium built! If future event holders are seeing this go on, i can bet they wont want to come to Hamilton NOW!! GO CATS GO
Bruce, Hamilton is a bit of a joke anyways, even to many people who live here and claim they "love" their city. I'm positive it'll get worked out but the joke aspect in relation to Hamilton, well get used to it, what can I say, building Copps for this "NHL city" enough said. Copps isn't even in the same class as the John Labatt Centre in London for an amateur league that gets sellouts of 9000 compared with the AHL here of 2500 in the "NHL arena" Copps.
PS. Go Bulldogs Go (although I don't care about the Calder Cup to be honest and wont be attending any games and don't feel ashamed to say this, the AHL is not needed in this city IMHO, bring back Major Junior Hockey somebody please in an appropriate arena)
Major Jr. hockey and the cfl best bang for your buck :thup:
I'm just curious if anyone knows how much the city has spent on the Rheem site and surronding properties. Also on the front page of todays Spec there are headlines for an number of articles, one about the possiblility of Mac and Mohawk sharing a downtown campus, could the Rheem site be used for that and the stadium put somewhere else?
IIRC, land acquisition is accounted for in the $55m budget, not sure though. What it’s cost to this point, not sure.
As for Mac/Mohawk down there and the stadium elsewhere, sure, why not?
Got that right. Man, I wish some silly team like Erie or Plymouth were looking to be sold. Even Brampton. Get them playing at Copps – and do it right this go-'round. But, don’t really see much relocation or expansion on the OHL’s horizon – and they’d be understandably wary about putting a team here.
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To all the boo-hoo-hoo suburbanites whining about downtown being scary and unsafe: harden TFU and grow a pair. My wife worked as a bartender at Acclimation on James st. North for over 3 years. She closed the place down by herself late at night 5 nights out of the week. She’s 30 years old and 120 lbs soaking wet. Did she make a fuss? No She just took some basic precautions like parking her car under a light post and being aware of her surroundings and got on with life. If she can do it why cant you? And if you cant then stay put in your cookie-cutter subdivisions, arm your alarms and hide in your basements. This country is becoming a nation of sissies…
...nation of whiners as well and people who don't care about the city they live in also. A lot that is.
Earl and BigPolish :thup: :thup:
WHAT THE HECK ???
People did not support the OHL team ya had there and they moved to the falls after 4 years … with words coming from Hamiltonians like " we want NHL not OHL "
kinda sounds like the words people use about the AHL …
Why on earth would anyone think it would be different now
One thing that surprised me about this conference is that Ian Troop, CEO of HOSTCO, gave the first confirmation that I know of, that the location of the stadium depended on reaching a deal with the TIcats for post-games use. Prior to this, I think the City was of the opinion that they could go forward on the stadium with or without the Ticats. But Troop issued a thinly veiled threat, saying (I paraphrase) "bid books can change and facilities can go in different places". This is not a definitive statement on whether the stadium would be lost to Hamilton if a deal is not struck with the Ticats, so it could be a bluff.
Nothing new here, but, I think it's important to note who is on the Board of Directors of HOSTCO: David Braley. I wonder if Braley has pulled some strings to get Troop to make this threat? The plot thickens.
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