FTR if anyone cares

average total score per game this week in cfl - 48. In nfl not including monday night, 44.2

whopping difference ehh 1.9 pts per team

Interesting stat FYB.

For me, it is they slowness of the game. There is just too much time on the play clock, and too little on the CFL. The NFL gives the QBs too much time, and drags especially the last few minutes out...I mean if you are up and have the ball with 2 minutes left, the game is all but over. Another 5 seconds for the CFL would be nice to see though, as there is often not enough time to audible. I grew up watching the NFL as a kid in the US, but I prefer the CFL by leaps and bounds.

And yeah, as a comparison, CFL teams are scouring 26.5ppg, NFL, 23.0

Also, anyone who doesn't think NFLers don't drop the ball didn't watch Monday Night Football tonight...horrible.

Well that average just dropped after that 16-9 barn burner of a Monday nighter!!!!!! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Yeah take away Indy and see what the average ppg for a NFL team is!!!

Yeah take away Indy and see what the average ppg for a NFL team is!!!

Sure...so long as we take away the Stamps...take the top out of each...I am assuming you mean Denver.

that makes it 42.7. That is 2.65 pts per team diff. still not much.

not trying to saying NFL is great or anything like that, just countering the one misinformed argument against it by those who claim their games are too low scoring.

as per number of plays per game, some would be surprised about that as well.

Last I heard it was 151 per game for the CFL, and 123 for the NFL. That was a couple years back though.

Pave the NFL to 3 downs and those point totals will drop like a rock.

or increase the CFL to 4 downs and you'll see some barn burners for the ages.

I would bet there is no way the CFL averages 151 offensive plays per game. In last year's Grey Cup, the Stamps had 18 rushes and 36 passes (54) and the Argos had 21 rushes and 31 passes (52) for a total of 106 offensive plays. Add in a few more for plays called back because of penalty. Those numbers are very typical in recent years, in my unscientific observation. In the 1980s, CFL teams used to average 55-65 passes+rushes per game; it has dropped to 45-55 in recent years thanks mainly to clock rules that now keep the game clock going when the 20-second clock hasn't started. Because of this, it is very common for there to be 35-40 seconds of game time between a whistle ending a play and the snap of the next play.

Under old clock rules (when the 20-second clock and the game clock were more in sync), teams typically ran a lot more plays. Take the 1956 Grey Cup, for instance: Edmonton had 82 (!) rushes and 17 passes for 99 plays; Montreal had 34 rushes and 38 passes for 72 plays. Total between them of 171, plus 25 punts and one field goal -- almost 200 snaps in the game. There were also 13 penalties although I have no record of how many were accepted or declined.

The New England Patriots managed to run 91 plays in one 60-minute game last season, so even with the NFL's clock rules it's possible to produce more offensive chances than we are typically seeing in a CFL game. I'd like to see more CFL teams go no-huddle and try to run three plays per minute instead of the two or fewer we typically see.

The last time I calculated it, which was a few years ago, there were 16 penalties per game in the CFL, and 11 in the NFL.

http://cfldb.ca/faq/game-rules-regulations/
The number of plays executed in a CFL game varies from game to game (a range of 145-165 plays per game). The average number of plays, including kickoffs, converts and punts is between 155-160 plays per game. In a game balanced between the two teams this would result in approximately 80 plays per team and about 55-60 offensive plays per team. Overtime games can add 20 or more plays to a game depending on whether a second possession is needed to decide the game and in how many plays both teams score in.
I'd heard 151, which falls in line with the quoted [url=http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/plays-per-game?date=2013-02-03]http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/pl ... 2013-02-03[/url]

in 2012 the average was 64.29 per team in the NFL...aka ~ 128...I said 123, which falls in line with the 128 I stated...like I said, it was a few years ago I heard it.

I'd love to know the source of their statistic of 145-165 plays per game -- i.e. where are the data supporting it? The suggestion of 55-60 offensive plays seems more accurate than the 146-165, although I believe the number of offensive plays has gone down since the mid-1980s and I would not be surprised to discover it's more in the range of 50-55.

I intend at some point to compile a database of total offensive plays (i.e. passes and rushes) per game over the season. Here are the stats from this week, which is obviously too small a sample size to draw any conclusions from, but still interesting in the similarity from game to game:

Tor-Ham: 73 passes, 36 rushes, 9 punts, 3 FG att, 5 XP, total of 126 snaps
Wpg-Mtl: 72 passes, 38 rushes, 10 punts, 7 FG att, 6 XP, total of 133 snaps
Edm-Ssk: 58 passes, 52 rushes, 18 punts, 2 FG att, 0 XP, total of 130 snaps
BC-Cal: 77 passes, 36 rushes, 15 punts, 6 FG att, 6 XP, total of 140 snaps

Average of 132 total snaps (offensive plays + punts + place-kicks) per game: 66 per team.
Average of 35 passes and 20 rushes (offensive plays) per team.
Average of 6.5 punts, 2.25 FG att and 2.25 XP (place-kicks + punts) per team.

So you figure a league that has a 40 second play clock, and a league that has a 20 second playclock are going to have basically the same amount of plays? And yes, I am fully aware that the clocks start and stop at different points...NFL's essentially keeps rolling, CFL's is blown in upon placement.

If you really want to run the figures, simply build the script to pull it from the Bodog database...probably the easiest way of doing it, and once done can be applied to both NFL and CFL.

I have seen enough games in both leagues in recent seasons to believe that yes, the number of offensive plays in each is comparable despite the different clock rules. As I said above, I have seen plays in the CFL where a snap took place 40-45 seconds of game time after the previous whistle. And while the Patriots running 91 plays in a game was extraordinary, it's becoming more and more common for teams down there to go no huddle and get in as many as three or even four plays in a minute of PT. I would love to see actual stats for both leagues but I suspect they are easier to obtain and extract for the NFL than the CFL. In a way, that is beside the point -- my real concern is that the number of plays in a CFL game seems to have shrunk over the past 30 years. I want as much action as possible. As a side issue, though, I take issue with those who continue to propagate the outdated and erroneous notion that the NFL is slow and boring and lacking in action or excitement compared to our game. The on-field evidence strongly suggests otherwise, although having an actual apples-to-apples statistical comparison would obviously help settle this.

You make it sound easy but I don't know squat about building scripts or Bodog. Perhaps I'll figure it out at some point.

the number of plays has definately changed. Running the clock on converts, after minor penalties, etc are things that have been attributors to that.