Drew EdwardsVerified account ?@scratchingpost 32m32 minutes ago
Former #Ticats offensive coordinator Tommy Condell has joined the #Argos as a special advisor #CFL
Drew EdwardsVerified account ?@scratchingpost 32m32 minutes ago
And the plot thickens.........
Fishy stuff, gotta wonder what actually happened when he left. I guess the reports that he was still living locally were probably true.
And now, Milanovich leaves to go to the Jags!
@ez: Exactly. Maybe now the real story about his departure will come out.
Special advisor first....then HC? Or GM? Or both? Funny way to do things.
Arash MadaniVerified account ?@ArashMadani 10h10 hours ago
Per sources: Argos had tried to hire Condell last year in a similar role, but were blocked by the Tiger-Cats at the time. #CFL
Sure sounds like bad blood,
I don't blame the TiCats for blocking that at all.(if they even did)
Nobody in the League knew more of Austins complicated Offense than Condell and he wants to go to our competition as a special advisor, like that is going to be okay.
Condell left us totally effed when he left 6 weeks before Training Camp because he was butthurt.
He put his butthurt feelings over some kind of spat with the HC ahead of the team, the players, the fans.
It hurt our Offence losing him and still has, there was no need to quit on us over hurt feelings,
he should have honoured the last season of his contract.
He has now gone over to his precious blew team, They can have him, Condell is dead to me now
What’s interesting to me is what could the Tiger-Cats have done to stand in the way of such a hire by the Argos last year? By my reckoning, the most logical explanation would be that Condell remained contractually bound to the Ticats last year, and they were paying him to sit at home. Plot thickens indeed.
Hamilton had every right to block that hire last year. Condell had every right to be displeased by it and leave. Nobody’s at fault. This is a business. Teams have to take care of their interests, and coaches have to look out for themselves.
I think you're wrong on all counts!
If Michael Copeland wanted to name Condell as GM, he would have done so already. More likely, within the next day or two, Copeland will announce a new head of football operations whose task it will be to deal with the GM's position and, ultimately, a head coach.
I suspect Copeland snapped up the well-respected Condell as soon as he became available and has him in a "holding pattern" until he can be assigned to either the OC or HC position and this move may have been prearranged with the incoming boss.
It may seem like a "funny way to do things" if you don't appreciate/understand the logistics involved.
As to the reason why Condell left the Ti-Cats, I suspect a serious rift developed between Condell and Austin that made it impossible to work together even if it meant that Condell had to leave but continue to be paid.
Possible reason: I suspect that Condell followed Austin to Hamilton with the expectation (promise?) that Condell would move up to the HC position if Austin moved to the front office. When that didn't happen and, in addition, when Orlondo Steinauer was named assistant head coach, Condell ripped Austin a new orifice.
It's speculation but also quite conceivable.
Quote from Mr62cats "@ez: Exactly. Maybe now the real story about his departure will come out.
Special advisor first....then HC? Or GM? Or both? Funny way to do things."
Seymour wrote: “I think you’re wrong on all counts! If Michael Copeland wanted to name Condell as GM, he would have done so already. More likely, within the next day or two, Copeland will announce a new head of football operations whose task it will be to deal with the GM’s position and, ultimately, a head coach.
I suspect Copeland snapped up the well-respected Condell as soon as he became available and has him in a “holding pattern” until he can be assigned to either the OC or HC position and this move may have been prearranged with the incoming boss.It may seem like a “funny way to do things” if you don’t appreciate/understand the logistics involved.”
Seymour: Be nice. You don’t know any more than I ( or the rest of us) do right now.
And I DID suggest in my post that he could be an OC or HC. Same as you. I added GM thinking that if he would be advising Copeland on a Head Coach hire, it would be a “funny way of doing things” if he was in a “holding pattern” for the lower position of OC. Looks to me like you are trolling for an argument as usual.
Bunch of conspiracy theorists.
Yup , I hear that Condell was the shooter on the Grassy Knoll.
Only reason I say it is fishy is because if I remember correctly, the Cats and Austin said it was a family issue he had and needed to deal with? Then reports came out he was still in town and not back in the States, then he signs with our rivals as a "special advisor" - he obviously is going to become a coach in some capacity I'd imagine - then it comes out that he was blocked from joining the Argos last season by the Cats...there is no conspiracy, something happened between Condell and Austin or him and the franchise, and the Cats played the media game well brushing it under the rug.
I don't care nor am I mad, just an interesting turn of events when you factor everything in.
@ez: I agree.
How can any Tiger-Cat fan not be curious about Condell's departure at such a crucial time....and then read about his resurrection as a Boatman? Especially when we have not done so well without him.
I defer to the rather convoluted logic by the poster from Peterborough.
You missed the lady with the umbrella.
All I will say is there are so many storylines and issues behind the scenes that never make the light of day, and that's the way teams like it, don't let the media speak fool you. If you don't think there was some type of rift then you're not using your brain. OC don't just leave with training camp six weeks away ... I am also an Avalanche fan, and same type of thing happened with Roy right before season began, and it was a badly kept secret that it was because Roy and Sakic were butting heads. Shit happens, it just interests me from outside looking in. Condell's departure was very strange and the fact that he joins the Argos a year later is even stranger, but this possibly sheds some light on what actually happened last year. I am sure if you asked Austin, he'd say he had personal issues with his family and made a business decision to join the Argos, but still doesn't mean I have to believe him.
Still want to know who he is advising more than anything lol Argos are in a bad place right now, their logic metre is broken
EDIT: Just wanted to add that I think it was likely a business related rift, and I imagine Austin and Condell are still friends considering how long they were together, but as I've said, it is just strange.
I imagine they are not friends and he wanted out, Austin is autocratic and wants to run everything himself. He doesn't need an OC
Well read into it what you will but here's a very interesting tweet from former Cat Bakari Grant who was not re-signed by Austin and left in FA after the 2015 season. You could read into it a number of ways but to me it looks like a backwards slam on Austin and a bigger respect for Condell all around by Grant as both a coach and as a human being.
Great teams start with building the right culture...great pick up by
the@TorontoArgosgreat coach,better man !
9:22 PM - 27 Jan 2017