Justin Holland is a young talent that is very smart and has a good arm!
Could it be Taman may have found a quaterback? I mean how many of these guys did he bring in over the years and they failed. Just maybe because he rushed them in or they did not have the tools such as Holland (Smart and strong arm). Or did Taman just pickup any guy that could look the part? I mean the others had weak arms and did not seem to smart does Taman know what a strong arm is and did he test this guys IQ on the field of battle?
I've never heard of Justin Holland. Then again I don't really follow amateur football. It would be great if we finally had a QB who could challenge Glenn for his position or at the very least be an actually somewhat competent back-up. That said I've learned my lesson about getting excited about a new QB before I even see him throw a pass. Tee Martin was supposed to be the Quarterback of the future here in the Peg and what a bust he turned out to be. Until I see this guy play I'm not going to buy into any hype he may or may not generate.
This guy might be the diamond in the rough that your team is looking for. I guess TC will tell the story. How much does Taman know or is he just signing a guy by the fact he has two legs and is holding a football (remember the million dollar kicker being offered a contract). I hope for the Bombers team this guy might be that diamond.
Maybe because of the slim pickings the cfl has been getting lately it is time to look at some Canadian QB's. Either that or they will need to add one QB position onto a team that is for a young QB to learn. Sure they do that now with the rosters but GM's in the past 7 years have not allowed youngin's to graduate other then BC and the Riders (Butler). :oops:
[quote="redwhite2005"]Justin Holland is a young talent that is very smart and has a good arm!
Could it be Taman may have found a quaterback? I mean how many of these guys did he bring in over the years and they failed. Just maybe because he rushed them in or they did not have the tools such as Holland (Smart and strong arm). Or did Taman just pickup any guy that could look the part? I mean the others had weak arms and did not seem to smart does Taman know what a strong arm is and did he test this guys IQ on the field of battle?
Ok Dad and your bommmer buddies what you think?
Justin Holland .....very smart...and can throw the ball a mile....potential for sure....I would like to see him come in early and get a feel for the CFL type football he wants to play.....i'll reserve my final analysis of our latest qb. signing until....AFTER....i see him in real action....
Hmmm seems a lot of caution is required what no trust in Taman? Mind you he does have a record of what finding poor talent in this position. Or is it this guy would sign just about anybody that comes to him with football in hand. Ah enough Taman bashing I think you get my drift by now. Just maybe your team might win a lottery sometime with this guy as GM but be cautious very cautious. Now read this http://www.cfl.ca/index.php?module=news ... 2&writer=5 and give me your thoughts?
...some of my thoughts on the article.....summation in brief....Akili Smith could turn out to be a T. Martin....or a Garcia...only some playing time in our league will point the direction for this guy....I have a lot of respect for John Hufnagel....he was always a positive for the Bombers in his time in the Peg....anyone under his tuteledge will certainly have the recipe for success....IF....the talent is there....Johns' record speaks for itself...i wouldn't mind having him back ....mentoring Glenn or the back-ups...good article.... good luck with Smith...
I didn't know it was Tamans job to Train/teach the young QB's, always thought the Coaches did that.
Taman brings in the Talent and it's up to the Coaches to get them Game ready.
There is two problems:
1.Not enough pre-season games to get those young QB's into games.
2.Not enough time in Practice to get Young Backups time to get CFL ready, Practices + meetings can only be something like 4.5 Hours long, that seems like a Joke for the League Right now considering Players average pay is currently at 88K for the 19 week Season(yes Off-season Training is part of the pay but still)
There should atleast be a rule allowing Coaches to keep(CFL) Rookies/Sophmores around for an extra amount of practice time. During the season.(say an extra hour and 30 mins) that would be monday-thursday, if the coach elects to do it.
These guys are getting atleast 40K(CAD) a year they can do a 30 Hour work week.
and not all 4.5 Hours are on the field that includes team meetings, so these rookies would likely only be getting their on-field practice time in that extra 1.5H unless their a first year guy who is also a starter(so Rookie of the year canditades mainly)
Guys like: Doug Brown, Milt Stegall, Geroy Simon, Dave Dickenson, Ricky Ray, Jeoffrey Reynolds, Henry Burris, Ben Cahoon. They don't need an extra Hour and a half of practice time but Rookies and Sophmores do, guys who aren't established and are still learning the canadian game or are just out of the CIS and need to get their skill level up.
Often in Winnipeg the problem is there is not enough practice reps for the backups so if a backup goes in un-expectedly their Raw and aren't prepared.(Tee Martin is a good example of that)
First off Barnes you are right it is the coachs job. however, a good GM should know the talent. You are right it seems over the years many coaches have been forced to play youngs before they are ready. BC Lions for instance they know how to groom QB's the Eskimos have done it for years. Reason the Lions and Eskimos could do this is because of depth. Their one/two guys are experienced the young guy in the squad learns as he goes. We are now experiencing a problem with talent at the QB position in the CFL. Could be that NFL has had a big turn over in QB's the past few years and the guys with the weak arms are available. In the CFL you need an arm or your done like toast. So just maybe it is time to create another position just for a Canadian QB. Will they get used I think they would be. I think a Canadian out of college is as good or better as any weak armed QB from the states. Canadian QB's have developed their skills for the size of the field already. I know it is a dream world but it might be the solution. Right now how many teams in the CFL have a QB in place that plays 2nd string and has experience? Possibly one team and they have two that could fill the bill. Give them credit because they do it right.
Taman intends on having at least 4 qbs in camp, Holland is just one of them who will be given shot to stick. Funny how everyone seems to think BC and Edm are qb factories, but how many have they turned out that are actually starters in the league......Jason Mass......
...i wonder why??????..Don't know what happened to Wynn after he left the lions......but lets just say his career started a down-hill trend.... :roll: :thdn:
Ok piggy not since Jones has the Bombers produced a QB. How many does BC have and how many has Edmonton produced. Hell even the Riders has produced more then the bombers in Butler :lol: Give me the names porkchop.
Papa says "...i wonder why??????..Don't know what happened to Wynn after he left the lions......but lets just say his career started a down-hill trend.... "
That's putting it mildly....so are too kind, Papa. I'd have said, rather than a "down-hill trend", that he fell off a cliff.
I remember vividly one game last year, when Wynn got the start against Montreal, he couldn't even get the Argos' offence to midfield the entire game. That's brutal.
Sure 05 change the subject, for all these great qbs being produce around the league you would think there is a glutt. Let me ask you something, which team has produced the most starting qbs in the league at present.......
Piggy your post suprises me it lacks what could I say intellegence. First off I was not changing the subject. The fact there are not many teams that has good coaching for their QB's Winnipeg being one. The best lately and I have stated this before has been BC and Edmonton would be the next on the list. As I mentioned in my post before which obviously you missed or did not read it. The riders would be next with Butler after all he will get a chance in Hammer. The fact Taman has had a revolving door with losers tells me he does not know the difference of a good QB vs a very bad QB. Now have I changed the subject porky.
good luck with Smith...