After listening to this debate for months on CHML, the Spec, CHCH and the forums, every once in a while somebody hints at the real reason the Cats can't make money at either IWS or the WH. It's all about demographics. Of course this isn't the most politically correct thing to say so it is avoided. The fact is that the people in the surrounding affluent neighborhoods don't want anything to do with Hamilton downtown. It's perceived to be dirty and unsafe and is ultimately despised. That is why they moved to Stoney Creek, Ancaster, East End, Binbrook, and so on. They are now used to their Big Box stores with ample parking and no hobos, panhandlers and crackheads accosting them. Their opinion of downtown will never change now.
How do I know all this? Simple. I'm a courier for a national company and I have delivered hundreds of thousands of parcels to every street in the entire city. From Dundas to the Creek and everything above. Since the start of the stadium debacle I have had the luxury of talking to hundreds of Ti-cat fans across the city. I cannot even print the expletives and resentment I heard for downtown and the WH. This distaste and hatred was virtually unanimous city wide except for the few pro WH opinions I heard. Not surprisingly those were in the North End. That being said most of the EM supporters said they would most definitely NOT be trekking through downtown with their families and children late at night after a TC game lets out. Also how many people told me that they are huge fans but got sick and tired of the parking hassle at IWS. Driving in circles along Gage and all those streets and finally finding a spot 2km away. Some of these were elderly people. Now they just sit at home and watch TSN. That translates to empty seats. So now Bob Young has to offer drastically discounted tickets to bring the attendance up. Just like now at IWS. This is a failed business model. It's amazing that some people, including the mayor, just can't grasp this. :roll: I've heard over and over from EM supporters that they would gladly pay higher ticket prices for a safer, driveway to driveway experience. This would allow the Ti-cats to make some cash for once which is the goal of every business. You also would bring in Regional fans from Kitchener, London, Niagara and so on. The Caretaker knows this also. I wish council would.