Defense ?

How can we use a 3 man rush, put 9 into coverage and then allow the pass to be caught ?

ASK KAVIS REED only he knows :? :? :?

NOW were geting somewhere 1tccat !

Let me twist this around.

How come we after we consistently let the pass be caught with the 3 man rush, we continue to use the 3 man rush?

This scheme is used way too often. Other teams know we do this on second and long almost every time, and plan for it. That's why the pass is often completed.

We have to have the worst defensive schemes in the league. We have 3 looks. On first down we line up with 4 on the line. On second and long we line up with 3 on the line. Occassionally we put more then 4 on the line. As long as the quarterback can count past 4 they know when the blitz is coming. This is pathetic. Not even professional football.

I agree in every aspect.

We have some of the very best defensive linemen playing in this League, and yet our so-called game planning gives an anemic rush with three guys, that overtasks the secondary to cover all the pass routes.

You can stamp Kevin Glenn flatter than an eggshell if you have the guts and guys (as we do!) to blitz, and Wpg's weakness is plainly that they have no backup QB, (and of course Kevin is not a Damon Allen or a Dave Dickenson!)

Bring in some "winning" coaches to "guest" with the team a week or three and lets get back to our potential!

I like to see us Challage WR and the Slots at the line of Scrimage more..

We are Always Droping into a zone..

There is our secret weapon, the 40-yard prevent with a 2 point lead and FG position at stake... :wink:

It IS sad, and so vanilla that the players have to play exceptionally well to stand a chance.

Oski Wee Wee,

You have to like BC's approach .

They go from zone defence to man to man with two free safeties, according to Flutie.

It worked to great effect against the Argos.

BC got several interceptions using this approach.

Also ,I still wish we could use the play action roll out pass to free up our recievers more.

It helps to have a power running back that the defence really buys into on the play.

We'll get there.

The Lions also disguise their LB blitzes exceptionally well: in other words, Kavis, they don't just line them up on the line of scrimmage all the time when they send them!!! :smiley:

Regarding your point on the play action game, I agree. Notice how they use the "pistol" approach with the shotgun, with the HB lining up two steps behind the QB, allowing for a running start on the handoff and BOTH sides of the line available for runs. That creates the possibity of a fake handoff and rollout for play action off the shotgun.

Football is not difficult. There are challenges, naturally, but predictability can be cured in how plays and gameplans are designed. LOL

Oski Wee Wee,

It's unfortunate that somewhere there isn't a man with experience coordinating a defence, Sudsy has ties to our team, Sudsy and also has enough experience kicking to help out in our other incredibly weak area. Sudsy.

If anyone knew of such a man it may just be time to bring him in, even if only for the reaminder of this season.
Kavis can put up the odd good game here and there but when it comes down to needing to adjust to the oppositions adjustments we need someone with way more smarts and experience.

Canucklehead wrote-It’s unfortunate that somewhere there isn’t a man with experience coordinating a defence, Sudsy has ties to our team, Sudsy and also has enough experience kicking to help out in our other incredibly weak area. Sudsy.

If anyone knew of such a man it may just be time to bring him in, even if only for the reaminder of this season.
Kavis can put up the odd good game here and there but when it comes down to needing to adjust to the oppositions adjustments we need someone with way more smarts and experience.

This is the same D sudsy ran in 98 cuploss,. the best CFL d,s line up 6 or 7 or more on the line or in the box, disguising blitz,s When TiCats had montford we used to see stunts and LB blitzes, Hitchcock can still be deadly Also they ran a safety blitz against cavilo and no one “cover” the open area, is there a lack of onfield leadership or communication?

The defense is definitely suspect.

Why do we not have an effective blitz? Other teams seem to have a higher success percentage but our blitzs rarely work. Poor play design (ie, poor stunt routes)? Players too "dumb" to execute defensive scheme? What????

Why do our DBs play so far off the receivers? Our receivers have DBs on their hip while other teams have 5 yard cushions. (or is it our receivers that can't get open?)

Poor play calling. As mentioned, a prevent defense (which it rarely is) ala the Calgary game. Giving guys like Cahoon and Stegall free reign. From the Winnipeg game, calling a play within our 15 yard line that has the 4 D linemen spread out with a gapping hole in the middle and the middle LB 10 yards deep... A scrambler like Glenn had a wide open field (downed within the 5 yard line).

Mixing man-to-man and zone coverage on the same play. CHML Coach Sal commented on the mixed coverage being hard to cover (receivers moving from a man-to-man part of the field into a zone area confuses the DB coverage).

IMO, we are now suffering from inexperienced assistant coaches (who Marshall stuck with far too long). Barrisi (sp?) proved ineffective (gone) and Reed and Erdman (none too special teams) are suspect.

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Our new Head Coach will hire whoever he wants as his Defensive Co-ordinator.

The team won't be hiring another Defensive Co-ordinator in the interim.

I agree, Ron, on both counts. This is an audition of sorts for all the assistant coaches. Don't like their chances after Friday's game, so I hope they turn things around PDQ.

Oski Wee Wee,

2nd and six, a GOOD running QB, a VERY good RB, and Coach Reed takes out Devonte Peterson and brings in Beveridge. IN OUR OWN RED ZONE. Result: 12-yd gain on a QB run.

Pathetic.