Contractual Double Standards

I've seen a lot of slagging of Quinlan for refusing to report to Montreal and accepting another career offer. The criticism suggests he is a coward, a quitter ..all sorts of things...said by guys on their couches. Williams in Hamilton is now hated by many as he wants out of his deal.

However teams cut players all the time, unceremoniously. Contracts are not guaranteed by the teams.

Should we expect contracts to be guaranteed by the player?

They pay Union dues. Its in their hands.

[b]slant wrote: Should we expect contracts to be guaranteed by the player?[/b]
If it is written in the contract, and agreed/signed by both parties, then yes.

This useless troll can't even make a simple post without jabbing other members "being on their couch." :lol: I suppose you're Anthony Calvillo posting incognito, right? That's what gives you the moral superiority?

Go eff yourself.

I'm disappointed in Quinlan not taking up the challenge of competing for a spot. IMO he was given an all to rare an opportunity for a NI QB to actually get a legitimate shot to compete. I'm also disappointed that Sinopli has been moved over to receiver as I though he showed ability at QB last year in preseason.

But to me the biggest issue with Quinlan was that, from how I understand it, the way he informed Mtl that he was not coming was by being a no show instead of being up front about it. I think there would've been less fuss if he had been more forthcoming about his decision in advance. The route he took makes it look like he chickened out, IMO. Maybe I have the facts wrong and he did in fact tell MTL in advance he wasn't coming.

Quinlan informed the Als he was retiring from football two weeks before the official announcement. (May 30)

[b]"Officially I made (the decision) a couple weeks ago," he says. "That's when I called the Als and let them know. But it's been something I've been mulling for a while."[/b]

Ya...fair enough. I don't know the circumstances either.
But I guess my question is why does a player receive so much criticism for "firing a team" and a team is absolved for non guaranteed contracts? They can release whenever they want.

Ya...fair enough. I don't know the circumstances either.
But I guess my question is why does a player receive so much criticism for "firing a team" and a team is absolved for non guaranteed contracts? They can release whenever they want.
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Teams are employers, players are employees. Football is still a job in the end. Every business in the world can release or fire any employee at any time, and in some cases you're escorted out by security. In football they basically fire you if you aren't good enough to do the job or, in some cases, can't perform. If you're quitting or switching jobs, the appropriate thing to do is notify your employer so they can find someone else to fill your spot. In this case, the player didn't fire the team, he failed to show up for work, basically quit, and didn't do the right thing by informing his employer. Simple as that. If you did that at work, I'm pretty sure you're not going to get a glowing recommendation.

I'm not sure that it is an employee /employer relationship in any way.
No appeal process when fired
No open application process
etc
etc
Not saying there should be either
Just questioning the perception that a player is in the wrong when they say I want out. And the team is golden if they void the contract.
Guess I'm saying the players should be able to walk without being vilified given the team can walk you out the door whenever they want.

[b]slant wrote: Just questioning the perception that a player is in the wrong when they say I want out. And the team is golden if they void the contract. Guess I'm saying the players should be able to walk without being vilified given the team can walk you out the door whenever they want.[/b]
actually, teams are constantly being vilified or criticized on forum boards, and elsewhere, when players are released.

and in fact, it is far far more common for teams to be criticized regarding trades and releases than of players who decide to quit or retire from football.

They can do whatever they want so long as they don't play for another pro-league that honors CFL contracts, which most of any consequence do.
The teams cannot "walk you out the door whenever they want". There are limitations based upon games and veteran's number of years of service in the league.

And, since it is all negotiated between the CFL and CFLPA, it is a give-and-take arrangement that league, union, and players should and must honor. It may not be equal but it is fair. Any party that tries to circumvent the agreement deserves to be called-out.

This whole topic is a moot point because of the amount of money involved... Anybody can make the kind of money,Quinlan would of made. He would of made the same amount of money in Montreal by picking up a paint brush, and putting an ad on Kijji. Labourers on industrial construction sites make twice as much as Williams is schedued to make this year. Until the CFL pays real wages, then it s pointless to talk about it. Guys will do what they gotta do to survive.

Your so full of shiat. There isn't one labourer that makes 10k a month picking up a paint brush.

The way CANADIAN QBs are treated in the CANADIAN Football League, it's no wonder Quinlan did what he did.

your so right HfxTCI , i get
so fed up with the CFL players make less then McDonalds staff comments. If you told someone that you make
5000 bucks a week, they would say that's good money. Well if the average wage in the CFL is approx 90,000 , then that 5,000 a week for their 18weeks, give or take, so please give it a rest

Buono in BC says some vets need to accept reduction in their contractually agreed amounts or will be cut.
Seem fair?
and some decry a kid from McMaster to accept another career..after giving notice of his intention.

and williams wants out and we want to blackball him?

They have a union. If they aren't happy they can go on strike.

..wonder if Buono's actions are a public hint to the other GMs in the league he'd like to talk about doing some trading...I don't really see why he would have to go public with that sort of info otherwise