BOB if I promise to renew at a 41% increase and you promise me a discount of 25% in 2009 if they don't will you also put in writing that you won't increase prices in 2009 to claw back this rebate?Also my sales rep advised since 26 is now a gold section we would get beer vendors in our section will this happen?
B86, not to worry, if they raise the price on beer anymore, and I quite sure they will, you won't be able to afford it anyway.
An angry post about the need for beer…
lol
I love beer as much as anyone, and my liver can attest to that.
But this is the way I think about the beer price issue. The Ticats want to create a family friendly environment to attract more fans and create new fans of the franchise. (more tickets = more money, simple right?) Well what's one way of increasing the family friendly-ness of the game days? Reduce the amount of intoxicated people in the stadium is one way. How do you do that? Raise beer prices to the point where most people deem it unnecessary and too expensive. If people NEED to have beer to enjoy the game, then the team stands to make a hefty profit due to some people's addiction.
Much like the government does with cigarettes.
Gotta love economics!
- paul
Well if memory serves me right it was like 7.50 for a large here. A blue team/ticat game last year the dome had 9.25ish prices for a large beer.
It's all relative my friend!
It's probably because of the hydro bill on that giant concrete obelisk they call the Rogers Centre.
I live in Toronto and get paid more here because of the cost of living, whereas, people in Niagara (my home region) get paid less for the same job essentially. And the price of rent/real estate, don't get me started about that!
;)- paul
But this is the way I think about the beer price issue. The Ticats want to create a family friendly environment to attract more fans and create new fans of the franchise. (more tickets = more money, simple right?) Well what's one way of increasing the family friendly-ness of the game days? Reduce the amount of intoxicated people in the stadium is one way. How do you do that? Raise beer prices to the point where most people deem it unnecessary and too expensive. If people NEED to have beer to enjoy the game, then the team stands to make a hefty profit due to some people's addiction.Problem with the hefty prices is that it forces many people to sneak alcohol in to the game and whats the easiest thing to sneak in? the hard stuff, not beer, so you end up with some anebriated fans who have drank whiskey. People also wouldnt power drink before the game like its a high school dance if they could just go in and get a few beers at a reasonable price.
That is a valid point. But then that becomes a matter for the security and client care personnel at the stadium. Whether it's through frisking people like they do at most professional stadiums or being able to recognize when people have had too much to drink.
If the team lowers prices then it becomes an "enabler." And I don't think that is the message the team wants to send. Either way people will find a way to be intoxicated at the game. Their approach now doesn't allow them to be seen as the cause of the problem.
But you do raise a very valid argument. I am just thinking about it from an operations standpoint.
People will always find a way to circumvent the system regardless.
- paul
People will always find a way to circumvent the system regardless.
- paul
I figure give em beer at affordable prices and they might not bring in the hard stuff as much. Even if beer is reasonable the security still has to see that nobody is drunk so its not a matter of where they get it, it needs to be taken care of. I really dont think the reason for the high beer prices is to stop people from drinking it, but it does a good job of forcing people to find other more volatile solutions. A drunk at a game with an empty mickey bottle is worse than a drunk with a plastic cup.
Anyways...I dont think anyone was complaining about the price of beer. Just the fact that they wanted more. Which on a business side is a good thing and many there should be more people running around selling beer.
I'm a little tired of this discussion about ticket costs. If you want entertainment you have to pay for it. The costs of running the team go up every year. If you want the team to stay in business buy a ticket. The CFL doesn't have a large TV contact and revenues are from tickets,advertising and a percentage of the concessions including beer.
Speaking of beer, one of the reasons for the high cost of beer at football/hockey games etc is that if they keep the price high people will drink less.
Our government will not even allow cheap beer, they figure cheap beer equals a lot of drunks. There is a law that beer in the Beer Stores cannot be sold for less that $21 for a 24. This law dates back to the 1930's.
I was in New York state last week to get my Christmas beer - a 30 pack for $15, it was Blue imported from Canada. There was also US beer at $10 for a 30 pack!! I didn't see aany drunks staggering around from the cheap beer.
I find it very noble that the Tiger-Cats are waging a vigorous campaign to curb drinking. :roll:
And, here I thought it was sheer gouging....
Last season to It hard to Enjoy a Game with out a beer..
Our Season was like going to Dentist with out Novacaine
lol
The Ticats have said from the beginning of the Bob Young era they wanted to attract young people and families to Ivor Wynne stadium. I assume with the goal of creating more life long Tiger-Cat fans like all of us.
Family friendly + higher beer/liquor prices = less beer/liquor sales = less drunk people.
If I had kids would I take them to a bar to entertain them? Probably not.
- paul
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Family friendly + higher beer/liquor prices = less beer/liquor sales = less drunk people.
If I had kids would I take them to a bar to entertain them? Probably not.
- paul
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Depends on Kind of bar
I take Kids to the Endzone or Boston Pizza
But I not would take kids to Sun Downer in the falls or to Hooters
all of them are Kinds Bars Two are more Adult then the others.
That is a good point. I am most certainly not against fans endulging in a beer during the game. I am just saying there is a very logical reason as to why the beer is priced as it is, and that lower beer prices would be in direct conflict with the teams marketing strategy.
- paul
[quote="paullywood
That is a good point. I am most certainly not against fans endulging in a beer during the game. I am just saying there is a very logical reason as to why the beer is priced as it is, and that lower beer prices would be in direct conflict with the teams marketing strategy.
- paul
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Beer prices are high at the football games for one reason and one reason only----
Higher profits. Nothing else. Any other reason given is quite simply BS.
This is the same reason beer is expensive at the Beer and Liquor stores as well.
i'm sure management has a different opinion but....
i'd rather see 22,000 rowdy drunks in IWS than 30,000 mommies and daddies bringing their three year olds....
(of course i'd rather just see 30,000 rowdy drunks makin noise for the defense.... but given the choice......)
Oh so would I, I remember the 18,000 fans they had coming to the games before and they were waaay louder than the sellouts we get now.
But in terms of finances and the business side of things, you have to see why the team would prefer the 30,000 family fans. More concession sales, more merchandise sales, building life long fans who view a Tiger-Cat game as a social event and bonding time with their family.
Oskee Wee Wee,
- paul
Hey - I bonded with my dad and grandfather at Tiger-Cats games. Come to think of it - that was probably my first beer too... lol