CFL vs NFL

Do you think the best of the CFL players could give the best of the NFL players a run.

What are the PRO's and Con's about the game of CFL and NFL.

I think the NFL players would come out on top even if they where to play by your rules.

Here are some of my Pro's on NFL:

Four down
More Talent
Faster and smarter about the game

Here are some of my Con's on CFL

Two downs
Talent is based on non-import rather than skills.
Ball is oversized
The ratio is weird.

There is no difference in ball size now between the CFL or NFL.

Your analytical framework is a little biased. How come no NFL Cons or CFL Pros? You've slanted things entirely one way.

Let me guess. NFL fan?

An Argo-Cat fan

No way! I am a huge CFL fan and would sooner watch the Canadian game anytime. But realisticaly the worst NFL team would have the best CFL on the ropes by half-time. Any rules, any field, any refs. Bigger, stronger, faster and more talented.
The NFL is a football machine.That's a fact and if you don't accept it, that is fine.

Our starting imports are guys that couldn't stay on NFL teams even as 3rd stringers, so just do the math. Our best Canadians didn't make it or were never given a look. Not even sure if there are a dozen Canadian kids in the NFL now.

Any thoughts of a CFL team beating the NFL are just pipe dreams.

The talent dropoff isn't that huge, i think the best CFL team could hang in there against the worst or even mediocre nfl team under CFL rules. Like i said the difference between the talent isn't as big as the difference between the pay cheques.

Where to begin...

True, the NFL has four downs, but the CFL has three...not two.

The balls are the same size.

Are you suggesting non-imports aren't skilled?

What exactly is smarter and faster about the NFL? The commercial breaks?

No, a CFL all-star team would not give a NFL team a run for their money. So what? Does that mean the CHL or AHL is inferior to the NHL therefore don't support them? Do you actually have a point here?

[Sighs]

Anyway...

Unless you drive down to Buffalo or beyond on a regular basis, then the CFL is the best professional football league around. The franchises are all Canadian based, its not gambling based, and the Grey Cup actually has fans in the seats - not corporate guests.

Based on this offering, I suggest you turn the television off more often and pursue more active intellectual choices.

what is the point of your thread Merck?

There is no point, I just wanted to hear your comments on the issue.

Its interesting to hear about two different games but the same really.

Merck, you're cut.

Why am I cut, Im just asking a question.

I think the best CFL team could WIN against an NFL team if they played by all the CFL rules. (We'll play with our Canadians, but let the NFL team off the hook for that.)So, CFL field, 3 downs, and most importantly, ROSTER SIZE.

Some NFL teams have 3 kickers dressed. One for kickoffs, one to punt, and one to kick field goals. The NFL active roster has about 10 more players than the CFL's. The NFL features lots of specialist players. Such as DT's and LB's that only play run downs (or pass downs). And they have "return only" guys. The starters in the NFL don't play special teams, but they'd have to in a CFL setting (again, due to the smaller roster). The NFL guys would get worn out from playing so much more of the game because there would be less substituting. (I'm thinking mostly of the big men from NFL teams, receivers and corners wouldn't have a problem adjusting.)

And let's not forget about the rules that they wouldn't understand! No yards. The rouge. I don't know if they'd know how to use the 12th man on the field.

The dimensions of the field would freak them out. The 55 yard line?!? Or all the room on returns. Or Quarterbacks having to adjust their throws on the wide side out pattern.

These are just the first few thoughts that popped into my head, but I'm sure there's plenty more.

Oh right, another MAJOR factor: the 20 second time clock! They would take a ton of delay of game penalties.

And no 3 timeouts per half!
...lining up a yard off the ball on defence
...the strategy changes they'd have to make with only 3 downs
...and the QB wouldn't have a head set in his helmet
...how would they defend the much larger end zone?
...what would they think of the goal posts at the front of the end zone?
...and they wouldn't know about the rule where the kicker can recover his own punt, I can just see the NFL team waiting for the CFL team to down the ball and the CFL punter recovering the ball.
...on a ball going out of bounds the CFL team only needs to touch it last to gain possession

There are so many subtle differences in the rules that the NFL team would scream bloody murder that the refs were conspiring against them.

oh, and can we play the game in Calgary, or Regina, or Winnipeg after the NFL season is over in February? I'd love to see those big tough NFL guys play outside in one of those cities in February.

Thank you PC...

Alot of information to share with my ladies here in the states

While I do feel that the NFL stars are more talented and that an NFL team would dominate a CFL team... the rest of your post is just assinine.

You feel that 4 downs is a plus for the NFL. I view it as a weak point.

And then the doooooozie!

Faster and smarter about the game? Huh? I'm confuzzled.

What's faster? The longer play clock? Taking 3 knees at the end of the game and riding it out? 3 timeouts per half? Yeah, they all seem to be making the game faster! :wink:

And smarter about football? I'm not even going to touch this one.

The NFL and the CFL will always be a different games with similar players.Of course if we had a all star game between the CFL and NFL we the Cfl would be crushed today.It wasnt that way years ago when the ticats beat the bills!

This argument is tired but I realize that newer fans and online members have the right to discuss and think this out…

I am incredibly confident that given the differing rules and roster requirements, any team would beat the other so long as they were playing by their native league’s rules. The games are really that different.

I understand that the import ratio and economic disparities mean the CFL might not collect the absolute cream of the crop to play Canadian football, they come pretty close. I am also sure as hell that even with the economic advantage and the cream of the crop in American football, an NFL roster is almost incapable of playing a Canadian football.

Please please don’t confuse large men running on a pewny field with ‘faster and smarter’. Yes each individual play unfolds more quickly in the NFL, but this is because they are dealing with 65% of the playing area with no neutral zone!

you said “lets look at some of the pros and cons of the CFL and NFL”

But then you only list the pros of the nfl and the cons of the cfl.

not a fair analysis in my opinion

I enjoy a lively debate as much as the next person as long as the protagonist can demonstrate some knowledge of what he is discussing. Merck, come on back when you figure out how many downs our game has. Here's a hint. It doesn't have two!

well from what I see if you guys dont get a first down after two plays thats consider two.

Im just getting information from different people to learn about the sport, so when its ladies sports night I'll have more to talk about.

And when I wrote about PRO's about the NFL and CON's about the CFL it was only to start off.
I have PRO's and CON's about both NFL and CFL.

PRO's on CFL:

The 5 yard rule thing is real nice. Keeps player safe and opens up a chance to return one.

Wider field. Which in this case gives a chance for the speedy guys to burn their rubber.

More WR's on the field.

LOL you guys get a point when you miss a fieldgoal (FREEBE)

well from what I see if you guys dont get a first down after two plays thats consider two.

Im just getting information from different people to learn about the sport, so when its ladies sports night I'll have more to talk about.

And when I wrote about PRO's about the NFL and CON's about the CFL it was only to start off.
I have PRO's and CON's about both NFL and CFL.

PRO's on CFL:

The 5 yard rule thing is real nice. Keeps player safe and opens up a chance to return one.

Wider field. Which in this case gives a chance for the speedy guys to burn their rubber.

More WR's on the field.

LOL you guys get a point when you miss a fieldgoal (FREEBE)