Why are you defending a poster who obfuscates and outright lies. Access_media has posted several outrageous threads which no facts to back up his/her dubious claims. Pat provides sources and is a valuable contributor to this forum unlike the other poster.
Anyone with common sense knows most CFL teams are barely break-even propositions at best in a non-Grey Cup hosting year. Check out the financial reports for the following publicly owned teams in 2014 (non-Grey Cup hosting years for all)
Winnipeg Blue Bombers
[url=http://www.bluebombers.com/2015/04/08/wfc-posts-39-million-profit-in-2014/]http://www.bluebombers.com/2015/04/08/w ... t-in-2014/[/url]
[url=http://cfl.mrx.uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wpg/downloads/downloads/2015/04/winnipeg-blue-bombers-annual-report-new2015040521.pdf]http://cfl.mrx.uploads.s3.amazonaws.com ... 040521.pdf[/url]
The club posted an operating profit of $3.9 million but what they had to make a payment of $4.5 million for their annual debt repayment on the stadium loan. Thus, they had to dip into their reserve fund to compensate for the .6 million shortfall.
Total operating revenue was 26.7 million incidentally
[url=http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/05/05/edmonton-eskimos-announce-35-million]http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/05/05/e ... 35-million[/url]
Edmonton posted a $3.5 million profit on operating revenue of $24.3 million
Keep in mind they are planning on spending $3 million of that on improvements as indicated in the Sun article.
[url=http://globalnews.ca/news/2062404/saskatchewan-roughriders-make-2-2-million-in-2014/]http://globalnews.ca/news/2062404/saska ... n-in-2014/[/url]
The Riders posted an operating profit of $2.2 million with revenues of $42 million. The common refrain here seems to be that the Riders working some sort of accounting magic to hide their real profits. However, the team was paying a significant amount of money which I believe was around 4.5 - 5 million per year over a 3 year period for the stadium improvements they made prior to the 2013 Grey Cup. That included the 2 new giant screens and the additional 3000 or so seats plus suites added to increase stadium capacity.
The club also derives a large percentage of their revenues - nearly 25% - from the merchandise as indicated in the article I posted. Pro sports teams don't derive very much profit from their merchandise sales. Riders own three of their stores so that helps a little but for any other store that sells merchandise, the wholesaler and retailer have to take their cut leaving the Riders with little in the way of profit. All that merchandise with their logo does help with brand awareness though so that is a positive.
We should keep in mind that these operating profits for these 3 clubs occurred after the new TV deal was signed so there has not been any additional significant revenue sources from the league since that point. These 3 clubs would also be the most profitable in the league based on their stadiums and fan support. Calgary would probably be 4th with a respectable corporate base but is stifled by a outdated facility. It's unlikely any of the other teams could match the revenues or profits of the big-3 given a combination of poor fan support (Toronto, BC), outdated facility with fewer suites and club seating (Montreal), small facility with fewer seats, fewer suites and club seating (Ottawa, Hamilton, Montreal).
It's laughable to suggest that CFL teams are more profitable than the Toronto Blue Jays base on the evidence I have provided above. I would also like to point out that the Jays had the 3rd highest average attendance in MLB last year at
Even with the poor exchange, the club still had ticket prices slightly above the MLB average of $31.00 in 2015
[url=https://www.statista.com/statistics/193673/average-ticket-price-in-the-mlb-by-team/]https://www.statista.com/statistics/193 ... b-by-team/[/url]
Keep in mind the club had increased their average ticket price by 10% for the 2016 season so that average ticket price would rise as well and place the team further from the MLB mean.
As I have pointed out the BLue Jays regional tv contract is worth an incredible amount of money but because Rogers, the cable provider and broadcaster owns the team it is likely the team receives a fraction of their fair market value.
[url=http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/estimated-tv-revenues-for-all-30-mlb-teams/]http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/estimate ... mlb-teams/[/url]
The Toronto Blue Jays present an interesting case. They weren’t included in the graphs above. Several years ago, the Blue Jays received $36 million from their RSN, but it’s difficult to accurately discern how much they’ve received over the past few years. The Blue Jays are owned by Rogers, which entity also owns Sportsnet, the channel on which the Blue Jays appear throughout Canada. The Blue Jays are likely only receiving a portion of the television money while the rest stays with the parent company.
[url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2016/09/28/here-are-the-2016-mlb-prime-time-television-ratings-for-each-team/2/#299357e26f41]http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/ ... 9357e26f41[/url]
[url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2015/07/17/prime-time-tv-ratings-for-all-29-u-s-mlb-teams-shows-baseball-ruling-summer-programming/2/#d2d8b084c04e]http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/ ... d8b084c04e[/url]
Take a look at the household ratings from the above articles for the 29 US teams and then look at the values of those teams annual tv contracts. Compare those with the Blue Jays. The highest ratings were the Mets at 215,000. The Blue Jays blow all these teams away with their ratings. When you consider the contracts these various teams receive - 80 million, 100 million, 150 million, 200+ million what do you think the Blue Jays tv contract is really worth? I can tell you it's quite a bit more than the $36 million quoted above considering their ratings were 1 million last year and have been above 500,000 for the past 4 years. It's ridiculous that the OP suggests Blue Jays advertising is given away for free with that many eyeballs on the screen :roll:
Also worth noting is the MLB contract that pays each team $52 million US per year.
So considering all of these huge revenue teams for the Jays plus the playoff games I didn't even mention, it's virtually a certainty that the Jays not only profit more than each CFL team but they have probably profited more than the all 9 CFL teams combined these past 2 seasons. That my friends is....
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