Canadian Football outside Canada

[Cflsteve0773]

@rshmglsky

If they`re serious about making a career in Canada playing football then they would come here and play university ball. If I were them I wouldn’t want to leave my family. I would just use the Toronto combine as a experience/vacation kinda how Ambrosie uses the BOGs to get free vacations to all these foreign federations.

I agree and said the same thing. Catch them at the younger age.
The CFL could even partner with Canadian Junior Football and alot players to Junior football teams.

[Cflsteve0773]

good stuff on this thread guys. I agree and have stated all the same things as were posted.

LFA in Mexico could be the one country to adapt CFL rules and field sizes.

They have two universty divisions. In which the pro league has a draft.
Among the stadiums they use are multi purpose Track & Soccer stadiums.
So there wouldnt be any costs to expand fields for larger Cfl dimensions.

[Capital_Dave]

@rshmglsky

If they`re serious about making a career in Canada playing football then they would come here and play university ball.

This is part of the goal of the global initiative, to get more global players in USports schools. Schools can charge international students more tuition. $$$ The more the league spreads awareness of its product and the potential career path for football players around the world, the more of them will look into USports schools.

And starting next year (IIRC), those students attending and graduating from USports programs will qualify as Nationals in the CFL.

[Cflsteve0773]

@PTBO Dave

This is part of the goal of the global initiative, to get more global players in USports schools. Schools can charge international students more tuition. $$$ The more the league spreads awareness of its product and the potential career path for football players around the world, the more of them will look into USports schools.

And starting next year (IIRC), those students attending and graduating from USports programs will qualify as Nationals in the CFL.

Yes sir indeed.
With Canada now full Fledged NCAA recruiting territory. NCAA Poaches most of the best Canadian talent.
So there are a few teams that have the best canadian talent. As the haves.
And the majority of schools as have nots.
The entire AUS is a have nots conference.
The have nots can turn things around quickly with the lure of new rules.
They can start recruiting US Juco school players.
There are a ton of great JUCO players that end up on the outside looking in when it comes to offers from NCAA schools.
There is just so many Juco players. With the turnover in rosters yearly plenty of hood players slip thru the cracks.
Usports teams could fill the void.
Global players going to Usports would potentially hold dual status.

[Hank01]

@PTBO Dave

This is part of the goal of the global initiative, to get more global players in USports schools. Schools can charge international students more tuition. $$$ The more the league spreads awareness of its product and the potential career path for football players around the world, the more of them will look into USports schools.

And starting next year (IIRC), those students attending and graduating from USports programs will qualify as Nationals in the CFL.

When I hear about the changes like the non Canadian graduating player being a national I feel

they had it right the first time with import and non import term used for classification .

The correct term was non import . The word national gives the connotation that they are Canadian .

Non Import is a better choice of words .

[Cflsteve0773]

@Hank01

When I hear about the changes like the non Canadian graduating player being a national I feel

they had it right the first time with import and non import term used for classification .

The correct term was non import . The word national gives the connotation that they are Canadian .

Non Import is a better choice of words .

I agree that calling players Canadian Nationals certainly isn’t the right term.
I wasn’t a fan of refering to Canadian Nationals as non imports.
The old rule was if u came from a foreign country and lived in Canada for 5 consecutive years.
Is im guessing why the term non import was used.
But now those players would be considered global players.

[okie]

I watched one of those International Bowl games this week. Concept is to promote the game of football around the world.

My guess is the number of people who showed up at AT&T stadium is a couple hundred. The game seemed to have nosponsors, probably because there is not enough of an audience to make it worthwhile. Games were in football-crazed Texas and in a stadiuim that drew over 40,000 for the state’s high school championship game. Yet, there was no interest in rooting for their country’s national teams.

That is one part of CFL 2.0 in which I am a skeptical about. Hoping there will be people following a league because there is someone there who came from your homeland.

[rshmglsky]

@Hank01

When I hear about the changes like the non Canadian graduating player being a national I feel

they had it right the first time with import and non import term used for classification .

The correct term was non import . The word national gives the connotation that they are Canadian .

Non Import is a better choice of words .

That makes sense.

Probably too much sense for the league, unfortunately.

[Hank01]

@okie

I watched one of those International Bowl games this week. Concept is to promote the game of football around the world.

My guess is the number of people who showed up at AT&T stadium is a couple hundred. The game seemed to have no sponsors, probably because there is not enough of an audience to make it worthwhile. Games were in football-crazed Texas and in a stadiuim that drew over 40,000 for the state’s high school championship game. Yet, there was no interest in rooting for their country’s national teams.

That is one part of CFL 2.0 in which I am a skeptical about. Hoping there will be people following a league because there is someone there who came from your homeland.

True I am skeptical too if thats what they are going for an audience in Canada or abroad with people watching because Lars from Norway is playing special teams .

On the other international bowl games .

High school age kids with so many levels like under 17 under 18 etc … is so broad .

Plus the US sees other countries beneath their level especially hotbed Texas . I don’t see it gathering interest like the little league World Series where other countries compete and win.

Not a huge fan of CFL 2.0 but at least it’s fighting the good fight and it’s trying something that should have been done years ago .

CFL 2.0 has a sweet spot untapped at the older group internationally where there is no colleges in Sweden , Germany , Japan etc … like LSU versus Clemson in the states .

So amateurs with just one age group 18 and over internationally playing our version may have a impact when there is more of a level playing field without the US dominance .

That would mean Canada being represented by actual Canadian’s playing our game though to make this actually work .

NFL and four downs is so dominant worldwide; it really is late in the game for the CFL and our version to be sold internationally but at least it’s worth the time as our version of the game is barely surviving and is always looking for a hero in ownership .

There is a opening the NFL has left open by it’s own culture of exclusivity .

To not try to exploit that one weakness is a lost opportunity as I don’t know how long the NFL will leave that space vacant .

The CFL should act as fast as it can to create something out of nothing overnight with three down football competing for a world title amateur for adults over the age of 18 .

[Balticfox]

@Hank01

Yes for sure how it stands today . .

The CFL should do what curling did only a lot less organic as they do not have time .

Find a sponsor like Air Canada .

Start an amateur international world championship for our version of the game .

Have them play down to ten teams or eight or whatever .

Bring those teams to Canada annually and play for the world amateur title over the age of 18 to whatever . This is where you will need a huge sponsor along with the CFL .

Eventually this championship will hopefully get sponsored in other countries and the amateur championship could be played in other countries .

Then you have something at the grass roots level that can build to a much higher level globally .

Excellent suggestion!

[Cflsteve0773]

IFAF had such an international football competition for men for about a decade or so every couple yrs. The men’s division has faded. Now the cfl is heading the international movement. I agree it would make sense to hold a global competition every 2 yrs. When Toronto hosted the Pan am games. I had discussed about having a ftp rules exhibition. Most stadiums in Toronto and Hamilton were being used. My thought was having a US, Mexico, 2 Canada teams. In an unofficial competition. Guelph and Waterloo Universities could have hosted the competition. With teams staying in dorms.

[Paolo_X]

@Wobbly Gabler

I think that due to the liability/risk of having goalposts located at the front
of the endzone, rather than at the rear, and related to the larger playing
field, we might never again see Canadian rules football played in the US.

What you will instead see is an evolution like the XFL, where certain
CFL-style rules get adopted to make the 4-down game more exciting.

The NFL now has more passing than ever before, and more mobile QB’s.

Also, due to falling participation levels, there is growth in eight-man
football, for example among high schools in smaller midwest towns.
This argues for an even smaller field, not a wider/longer Canadian one.

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Not that it’s going to happen, but I don’t buy you goal post argument though I agree with the rest.

Football at the amateur level up through middle school is still played with old-fashioned goal posts at the front of the end zone. They are about the same as and are often used also for rugby.

[Keener]

Agree

[anon49913191]

@Hank01

Ambrosie did state not too long ago he would like to see the other global leagues to play our version . It’s just that it’s too early in the scheme to get that larger impetus of a significant reason for those global football associations to want to change to the three down game .

No way this works without a conversion to not just watch but compete and play our style of football if it’s going to be the international game Ambrosie has visioned …

One thing I have to admit our version of the game is a much more difficult game to play with more nuances that make it interesting but just as well more intricate in frame work .

That aspect will be a harder selling point for some as the US game is a much more simple game in terms of rules . It also requires less field space to play where size of the field maybe an issue .

The rest of the world plays soccer. Field size is not an issue.

[Cflsteve0773]

@anon49913191

The rest of the world plays soccer. Field size is not an issue.

If & when they start with a league it should be Mexico.

[maverick]

How many years has the league wanted to add another team? The stadiums are not selling out, will lose more players to XFL. The product is great but your missing the mark. Fix your house then buy a summer home…

[rpaege]

@maverick

How many years has the league wanted to add another team? The stadiums are not selling out, will lose more players to XFL. The product is great but your missing the mark. Fix your house then buy a summer home…

This “will lose players to the XFL” meme is really annoying. There are literally 1000s of players available, and the XFL has a 10 game season that ends a month before the CFL season starts.

[Cflsteve0773]

There are just to many things going on out of the CFL office now.
Priority number 1 has got to be the majority focus the 10 th team in Halifax.
Stadium building is an issue in a lot of sports. The CFL needs to have a comittee run by CFL officers whose focus is on all things everything focused solely on halifax.
There are plenty of current CFL players that are from the Maritimes and plenty that are playing in the CFL right now and more than a few that are stars.
These guys should be hired in the off season to get out to and promote at their former schools. Inside Junior Hockey rinks. Running camps in the grass roots programs. A marketing professional leading the a team to market the CFL. gather all the cfl league sponsors to have a part in funding it.
I can go on forever.

[longtimetcfan]

I attended the recent visit to Hamilton (last Thursday) from the Commissioner and during the session he specifically mentioned that the Australian (North American-style) football association was soon going to move to CFL rules. As you can imagine, he was delighted.

At least it’s a start

[maverick]

@rpaege

This "will lose players to the XFL" meme is really annoying. There are literally 1000s of players available, and the XFL has a 10 game season that ends a month before the CFL season starts.

Love the CFL but the fact of the matter is average career is 2-3 years and money talks…
There are thousands of players but the rotating door does not help a league that is at a crossroads. I know throwing peanuts from the cheapseats is futile but that’s all fans can do sometimes…