Black comments on holding call.

An article in the Edmonton Journal quotes George Black as saying, "Referee Andre Proulx technically made the right call on Edmonton fullback Mike Maurer, given what he saw at the time, but the league would have preferred him to use discretion and keep the flag in his pocket."

Most of us probably agree. Here's the link to the article.

[url=http://www.total-cfl.com/cgi-bin/ceilidh.exe/post/?C3c635cb47TMb-6511-1145-07.htm]http://www.total-cfl.com/cgi-bin/ceilid ... 145-07.htm[/url]

This has hashed and re-hashed in some other threads, why start the argument all over again?

Point me in the direction of the thread that shows Black making the comment. If I missed the thread I apologize.

I think you are about the 9th guy to post Black's comments, but try this:

[url=http://www.cfl.ca/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=22358]http://www.cfl.ca/index.php?name=PNphpB ... ic&t=22358[/url]

I hate being sloppy 9th. Okay, my apologies.

Did anyone see the KC/NYJ game last weekend. There was a field goal try in overtime...and guess what...there was a holding penalty called, and they had to retry the field goal ten yards back...and NOT MUCH WAS SAID ABOUT IT...why not????

Thats because the USA media would never dare critisize the NFL. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Why no criticism from Canadians then? Maybe because they weren't watching the game, but where are the complaints from all the football experts who rail against the CFL officiating? It must because the American officials are SO much better :wink:

That was my point. The majority of people on this forum think that the NFL officials are gods of some kind and that the CFL officials are garbage.

I disagree that a majority of people think that. I think only a small but very vocal minority and a few occasional biased posters think that way. Most people don't complain about the officials.

Most people here complain

Westhoff didn't like the call (I think this is referring to that holding penalty in the Chiefs-Jets game):

"I wanted to have a heart-to-heart talk with Larry Nemmers, like, ‘Please, Larry, give me a break.’ I was shocked that he called [the last holding penalty]. It’s been a very tough season for us, and we didn’t need any more adversity.? - Mike Westhoff

[url=http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3208]www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3208[/url]

NY Times article here:

[url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/12312007/sports/jets/jets_win_temporarily_put_on_hold_848845.htm]www.nypost.com/seven/12312007/sports/je ... 848845.htm[/url]

Another example in the press in US college where a holding call on a field goal wasn't met with happiness:

"Arkansas thought they got hosed twice that game, the other call coming for holding on a field goal attempt."

[url=http://www.blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/mattingly/2007/10/its_not_heavy.html]www.blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/mattingly/20 ... heavy.html[/url]

How about defensive holding on a field goal, very rare:

"The referee, Bill Carollo, stood behind the call, explaining: "By definition of defensive holding on a field-goal kick, two things have to happen. First, he has to have defensive holding, and the second player has to shoot into the hole. That's what we called."

[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/17/sports/football/17game.html]www.nytimes.com/2005/10/17/sports/football/17game.html[/url]

Not a problem I am glad you brought it up. Seems like rider fans set the rules here. If they do not wish to participate in further conversation ignore the thread. Seems simple enough. The situation of Black not getting to many things right seems to be getting corrected by him being replaced this year. We do not need excuses we need things to be corrected to a level everyone will be satisfied. Yes it is a tough job being a ref but now they are on video it makes it that much more tough being one. Hopefully the next couple of years things will improve. If not go back to the days you leave it on the field for a ref to judge and will not be answerable to questionable calls.

This thread is not about Rider fans.
Please stay on topic!

Pardon me. It is on topic. You have a language problem. The fact is if they do not wish to participate then do not. It is that simple enough for you as well. Next time post all of my post the topic is there for you to read.

Sorry, '05...ro's right, and you're still not on topic.

Back to the subject.

Your entitled to your opinion and I believe that would include myself. If Ro could read he would see I was on topic. And I guess you are in the same boat. Did I not talk about subject matter in my post. Ya I thought so go grow up. Just so you can read it again

The situation of Black not getting to many things right seems to be getting corrected by him being replaced this year. We do not need excuses we need things to be corrected to a level everyone will be satisfied. Yes it is a tough job being a ref but now they are on video it makes it that much more tough being one. Hopefully the next couple of years things will improve. If not go back to the days you leave it on the field for a ref to judge and will not be answerable to questionable calls. I believe you and sad sack are the ones going off topic.

Is the thread about the rider fans?
No! It is about a holding call made during a field goal attempt, and the reply by the then director of refereeing.

There was no need to bring up Rider fans.

If you continue to hijack threads, your posts will be deleted and the thread will be locked!

Furthermore,
Your insults will not be tolerated!