Best Team Ever

I'm sure this has been brought up before but I don't recall seeing it. I have stated in the past that I don't believe you can compare eras so I have broke it down to 3 categories; Modern Era 18 game season, Modern Era 16 game season and finally BC (Before CFL).

Here are my picks:

Modern Era 18 game season: 1997 Toronto Argonauts - 15-3, Grey Cup Champs, 660 (36.7/game) points for-327 (18.2/game) points against

Modern Era 18 game season: 1981 Edmonton Eskimos - 14-1-1, Grey Cup Champs, 576 (36/game) points for- 277 (17/game) points against

Before CFL(1958): 1948 Calgary Stampeders - Only undefeated team in history

If I had to pick one team, my personal choice would be the 1981 Eskimos but I do admit to a slight bias.

I believe in 1981 the CFL regular season was 16 games.

I'd add the 95' Stallions to the modern day list

Blue Bombers 2015.

Yes that was a misprint on my part, it was a 16 game season hence, 14-1-1.

89 Eskimos played a bad game at the wrong time... ..Also the weather played a huge part in that game as well... Weather was an equalizer.. Otherwise they were virtually unstopable down the stretch... They got better and better as the season progressed and demolished Saskatchewan in the final game of the regular season... Actually they demolished their final 5 opponets something like 200 to 50...
Same as the Undefeated Patriots team that lost the Super Bowl... It is an easy argument to make

If we are talking about PF/PA ratio, the greatest team would then be the 1979 Esks (495 PF/219 PA) for an extraordinary 2.26 differential.

The 1989 Esks also wound up with an impressive 2.13 differential (644 PF/302 PA) to come in second.

and rounding out the top ten all-time:

  1. Esks 1981 - (576/277) 2.08 differential
  2. Argos 1997 - (660/327) 2.02 differential
  3. Bombers 1960 - (361/182) 1.98 differential
  4. Stamps 1994 - (698/355) 1.97 differential (amazing offence!)
  5. Lions 1964 - (328/168) 1.95 differential
  6. Als 2009 - (600/324) 1.85 differential
  7. TiCats 1965 - (281/153) 1.84 differential
  8. Esks 1980 - (505/281) 1.80 differential

*does not include pre-CFL leagues/teams (e.g. CFC, IRFU, WIFU)

[quote="tangledweb"]If we are talking about PF/PA ratio, the greatest team would then be the 1979 Esks (495 PF/219 PA) for an extraordinary 2.26 differential.

The 1989 Esks also wound up with an impressive 2.13 differential (644 PF/302 PA) to come in second.

and rounding out the top ten all-time:

  1. Esks 1981 - (576/277) 2.08 differential
  2. Argos 1997 - (660/327) 2.02 differential
  3. Bombers 1960 - (361/182) 1.98 differential
  4. Stamps 1994 - (698/355) 1.97 differential (amazing offence!)
  5. Lions 1964 - (328/168) 1.95 differential
  6. Als 2009 - (600/324) 1.85 differential
  7. TiCats 1965 - (281/153) 1.84 differential
    10.Esks 1980- (505/281) 1.80 differential

Interesting list when you consider that three of these teams actually listed failed to win the Cup. Even stranger that all 3 teams,the 1960 Bombers the 1989 Eskimos and the 1994 Stamps failed to even qualify for the Grey Cup in those years. I would think that alone should eliminate them from consideration from being on a list of " Best team ever "....unless perhaps a list of Best Teams Ever....to NOT win the Grey Cup....but hey that could possibly be a good topic for another thread. :cowboy: :cowboy:

Winning the Grey Cup is not a huge accomplishment.. It is equivelent statisticly to reaching the Conference finals is the NBA/ NFLnhl or A/NLDS in MLB...
Furthermore.. With football being single elimination there is always the chance for a fluke. Not to mention teams going cold after not having any meaningful competion for weeks.. There are many teams that did not qualify for Grey Cups that were much much better than eventual champs... The 2007 Riders won simply on the fact that their qb stayed healthy... It was a terrible team otherwise that started strong and faded badly down the stretch but still fluked off the cup... If Dinwittie had even 3 starts to his credit and the Riders would have lost... That game was waaaay too close considering the circumstances. My point is that the 89 Eskimos would have Cleaned the floor with the 89 champs 9 times out of 10... It was just a fluke weather SCE ario that they lost on basicly a fumble

Don't forget the EAST played a 14 game schedule while the WEST played a 16 game schedule as well. So during that time the 1972 Hamilton Tiger Cats are my choice in that era.

The correct answer (although, no one wants to admit it) is the Baltimore Stallions

grey cup win percentage is only 50%

Flutie led argos 30 pts back to back. The stallions only 26 and 30

The weather was a non-factor in that game, don't know what you're talking about there. The Eskimos inability to handle the Rider blitz was the huge factor.

Your memory is clearly shot... Players were sliding all over the field... Kickers were averaging like 30 yards a punt

The 95 Stallions were probably the best, but were allowed to play with a different set of rules . This created a huge advantage for team with savvy coaching staff that took full advantage. This disqualifies them from this convo.
This years Stampeders were very good and the 80 Eskimo team rolled to a championship and blew out the Ticats in the final.

The 91 Argos?

They were a solid team , DunnIgan almost choked that GC away too....Rocket saved them !

Dunnigan had his shoulder frozen… The crazy thing is the Argos let Dunnigan walk away in the off season… The Argos have been going nowhere but down hill since

Dunnigan , choked the 86 game away,Allen saved him in 87, choked in 88 and the Stamps shut him down in 92 .

My memory is not shot. The weather was a non-factor in the game, despite your attempt at revisionist history.'

A little digging confirms the temperature at game time was 1.2 degrees celcius, with a 13 km wind (that dropped to as low as 7 km. No wind chill. As perfect as conditions could be for November in Edmonton. The weather had zero to do with the outcome of the game.

[url=http://stats.cfldb.ca/league/cfl/schedule/1989/11/19/ssk-at-edm/]http://stats.cfldb.ca/league/cfl/schedu ... sk-at-edm/[/url]

Speaking of the "89" season, I can guarantee you that whenever that season pops up in conversation the only thing that people talk about or remember from that year is.....Possibly the Greatest Grey Cup of all time...Sask-43..Ham-40. If you asked 9 out of 10 people if they know or remember what the Eskimos regular season record was in "89" The answer would be a shrug of the shoulders and a shake of the head. Everybody remembers that Grey Cup and nobody remembers or gives a damn about the fact that the Eskimos rolled to a 16-2 record that season. Oh and another thing that has always made me shake my head is when certain fans blame the weather for a team's loss !!! Correct me If I'm wrong BUT don't both teams have to play in the same weather conditions ? The only way that weather might be considered an advantage is if one team plays their home games in a domed stadium and the last time I looked both the Eskimos and Riders both played in open air stadiums in "89". I found this short clip from that game,albeit it is only 4:00 minutes in length but besides the field being tore up,and somewhat mucky the weather seemed fine that day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ6wrNvyW98