best qbs of the last 25 yrs

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@"cfleskfan"

Anybody that doesn’t consider Ricky Ray as one of the top qbs, simply has no understanding of the game.

sez you

depends on how big a pool you include as best. For RR, best 20 of last 25 years, yes. Best 15, probably, Best 10, I don’t think so. Best 5, not a chance.

[cfleskfan]

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@"cfleskfan"

Anybody that doesn’t consider Ricky Ray as one of the top qbs, simply has no understanding of the game.

sez you

depends on how big a pool you include as best. For RR, best 20 of last 25 years, yes. Best 15, probably, Best 10, I don’t think so. Best 5, not a chance.

There is currently only one quarterback on the ballot for the Hall of Fame (Dave Dickenson) I will guarantee that Ricky Ray will be in the Hall of Fame in his first year of selections. I doubt you could make that claim for 10 others.

[Massdestruction]

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doug flutie
Anthony calvillo
Matt dunigan
Jeff Garcia
Dave Dickensen
Kent Austin

Austin ?? maybe 50th

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@"cfleskfan"

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@"cfleskfan"

Anybody that doesn’t consider Ricky Ray as one of the top qbs, simply has no understanding of the game.

sez you

depends on how big a pool you include as best. For RR, best 20 of last 25 years, yes. Best 15, probably, Best 10, I don’t think so. Best 5, not a chance.

There is currently only one quarterback on the ballot for the Hall of Fame (Dave Dickenson) I will guarantee that Ricky Ray will be in the Hall of Fame in his first year of selections. I doubt you could make that claim for 10 others.

hall of fame is usually for body of work for career. Doesn’t mean a lot as far as actually talent and ability goes. Many better people at all positions have come and gone in this league, not staying long enough to be HOF material.

[Mr.Bungle]

Kevin Glenn will go to the Hall as well. He will get there because Drew Tate and Lulay could not stay healthy .tate and Lulay were seen as better QBs by their coaching staffs, but Glenn will be the only of the three to get into the hall....OMG FYB...we agree on something :cowboy:

[cfleskfan]

@"FootbalYouBet"

hall of fame is usually for body of work for career. Doesn’t mean a lot as far as actually talent and ability goes. Many better people at all positions have come and gone in this league, not staying long enough to be HOF material.

How about this for a body of work. In a statistical study of all Gridiron Quarterbacks in the history of football. Ricky Ray is first in QB rating and first in passing percentage. Now this does not take into account running ability, toughness, leadership and their quality as a winner but RR excels in all.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gridiron_football_quarterbacks_passing_statistics]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gr ... statistics[/url]

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@"FootbalYouBet"

doug flutie
Anthony calvillo
Matt dunigan
Jeff Garcia
Dave Dickensen
Kent Austin

You put Ken Austin ahead of RR, did you even see him play. I don’t think you did RR stats are far superior then Austin’s are.

[Mr.Bungle]

@"cfleskfan"

@"FootbalYouBet"

hall of fame is usually for body of work for career. Doesn’t mean a lot as far as actually talent and ability goes. Many better people at all positions have come and gone in this league, not staying long enough to be HOF material.

How about this for a body of work. In a statistical study of all Gridiron Quarterbacks in the history of football. Ricky Ray is first in QB rating and first in passing percentage. Now this does not take into account running ability, toughness, leadership and their quality as a winner but RR excels in all.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gridiron_football_quarterbacks_passing_statistics]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gr ... statistics[/url]

Since Jason Tucker retired, Ricky Ray has not thrown a pass for more then 10 yards… He better have a high completion percentage!

[CROOKEDRIDER1971]

Tino Sunseri by the end of the season :thup: :thup:

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@"cfleskfan"

@"FootbalYouBet"

hall of fame is usually for body of work for career. Doesn’t mean a lot as far as actually talent and ability goes. Many better people at all positions have come and gone in this league, not staying long enough to be HOF material.

How about this for a body of work. In a statistical study of all Gridiron Quarterbacks in the history of football. Ricky Ray is first in QB rating and first in passing percentage. Now this does not take into account running ability, toughness, leadership and their quality as a winner but RR excels in all.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gridiron_football_quarterbacks_passing_statistics]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gr ... statistics[/url]

Ray is also one of only two QB’s (Calvillo the other) to have won 3 Grey Cups apiece in the last 25 years, (winning 3 out of 4 appearances to boot) and is currently in fourth place in all-time yardage among numerous other aforementioned all-time records.

and he is still only 34 years old!

Ray’s accomplishments speak for themselves and easily deserves to be on this list.

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@"cfleskfan"

@"FootbalYouBet"

hall of fame is usually for body of work for career. Doesn’t mean a lot as far as actually talent and ability goes. Many better people at all positions have come and gone in this league, not staying long enough to be HOF material.

How about this for a body of work. In a statistical study of all Gridiron Quarterbacks in the history of football. Ricky Ray is first in QB rating and first in passing percentage. Now this does not take into account running ability, toughness, leadership and their quality as a winner but RR excels in all.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gridiron_football_quarterbacks_passing_statistics]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gr ... statistics[/url]

that is because RR mostly throws low-risk high-percentage short-yardage passes. Great YAC getters such as durie and owen help pad his total yards.

[cfleskfan]

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@"cfleskfan"

@"FootbalYouBet"

hall of fame is usually for body of work for career. Doesn’t mean a lot as far as actually talent and ability goes. Many better people at all positions have come and gone in this league, not staying long enough to be HOF material.

How about this for a body of work. In a statistical study of all Gridiron Quarterbacks in the history of football. Ricky Ray is first in QB rating and first in passing percentage. Now this does not take into account running ability, toughness, leadership and their quality as a winner but RR excels in all.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gridiron_football_quarterbacks_passing_statistics]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gr ... statistics[/url]

that is because RR mostly throws low-risk high-percentage short-yardage passes. Great YAC getters such as durie and owen help pad his total yards.

I guess when a person dislikes someone they will use any rational to disregard facts, regardless of how irrational. Kind of like the Toronto guy with a hate on for J.C. Sherritt and thinks he’s a wimp because he didn’t play with a pin in his thumb.

[bobo8224]

Well I can't speak for the entire league,here is my personal best Ti-Cat QB's list from the last 25 yrs :oops: in no particular order....drum roll please...........................Bobo's Top 10 List Best Cat QB's of the last 25 yrs. :thdn:

#1......Casey Printers
#2......Jason Maas
#3......Timmy Chang
#4......Kevin Eakins
#5......Cody Ledbetter
#6......Jason Boltus
#7......Don McPherson
#8......Timm Rosenbach
#9......Jeremiah Masoli
#10.....Todd Dillon

YEEESH What a scary group these guys make up,OUCH !!!!! ps: I would have included my all time fav Rocky Butler.......but he never made it out of training camp with the Cats :roll: :cowboy:

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@"cfleskfan"

@"FootbalYouBet"

that is because RR mostly throws low-risk high-percentage short-yardage passes. Great YAC getters such as durie and owen help pad his total yards.

I guess when a person dislikes someone they will use any rational to disregard facts, regardless of how irrational. Kind of like the Toronto guy with a hate on for J.C. Sherritt and thinks he’s a wimp because he didn’t play with a pin in his thumb.

well, since you are clearly disregarding my facts, I might as well take a stab at disregarding yours.

I do not dislike RR, I just do not like his style of play because of what I previously mentioned. It was why the argos lost to Calgary.

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@"cfleskfan"

@"FootbalYouBet"

hall of fame is usually for body of work for career. Doesn’t mean a lot as far as actually talent and ability goes. Many better people at all positions have come and gone in this league, not staying long enough to be HOF material.

How about this for a body of work. In a statistical study of all Gridiron Quarterbacks in the history of football. Ricky Ray is first in QB rating and first in passing percentage. Now this does not take into account running ability, toughness, leadership and their quality as a winner but RR excels in all.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gridiron_football_quarterbacks_passing_statistics]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gr ... statistics[/url]

that is because RR mostly throws low-risk high-percentage short-yardage passes. Great YAC getters such as durie and owen help pad his total yards.

That’s a lot of short yardage passes if he’s gone for over 5k yards for a few seasons. I have to ask why the hate for RR your not upset because the Lions have never had a QB of his caliber

[dcmoses]

@"Johnny the one and only"

@"dcmoses"

AC, for sure. All he ever did was win in the regular season.

He would be on my list, but he would be the last name on the list. He was in a week east division which is why he was in 8 Grey Cup games, but to have the record he did in those games is a huge black mark against him.

Ricky Ray
Dave Dickenson
Jeff Garcia
Matt Dunnigan
Damon Allen
Doug Flutie
Danny McManus
Tracy Ham
Henry Burris
Darian Durant

I’ll take any of them over Calvillo. Calvillo would get you in the playoffs, but you never knew if he would show up for the big game and far too many times he didn’t.

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[i]Funny DC Moses! You would take Durant over Calvillo, but Calvillo beat Durant TWICE in the Grey Cup! Durant also has a losing record in Grey Cups…

Did you actually watch those Grey Cups? In 2000, The Als lost the GC because they could not stop Millington and Drummond on the ground. Pringle also fumbled twice.
In 2003, the Als lost because punt returner Keith Stokes dropped TWO punts (after touching the ball) in Alouette territory. Those 2 turnovers led to 10 Eskimo points. Also, Don Matthews started TWO rookie cornerbacks! Yup, 2 rookie cornerbacks in the Grey Cup :roll: Ricky Ray picked on those rookies all game.
In 2005 Calvillo threw for over 300 yards and still lost.

The only truly really bad games Calvillo had in the GC, was 2006 and 2008. The other 6 he played good enough to give his team a chance to win :cowboy: [/i]

I did watch those games. Punch up all the stats you like, facts are Calvillo had more shots than any other QB in the games history yet is tied with SIX other QBs for most wins as a starter. In 2000 he lost to an 8-10 team, in 2003 they lost because Calvillo produced a whopping 1 point total for 3 of the 4 quarters, in 2005 he lost because he threw 2 forward passes on the same play drawing a flag that took his team out of FG range and in 2009 he lost. Yes Montreal won the Cup, but when you talk about Calvillo’s legacy within the QB club it was a loss. The fact that the Riders can’t count gave Montreal the Grey Cup, not Calvillo. And just add some meat to his stats were there is none the gave him MVP honors for the 2002 Cup with arguably the worst performance by an MVP in Grey Cup history (11-31, 260 yds, 2 TDs).

Anthony Calvillo was a great regular season QB who would get you to the dance, but once in the playoffs he’s not the guy I would want leading my team.

[cfleskfan]

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@"cfleskfan"

@"FootbalYouBet"

that is because RR mostly throws low-risk high-percentage short-yardage passes. Great YAC getters such as durie and owen help pad his total yards.

I guess when a person dislikes someone they will use any rational to disregard facts, regardless of how irrational. Kind of like the Toronto guy with a hate on for J.C. Sherritt and thinks he’s a wimp because he didn’t play with a pin in his thumb.

well, since you are clearly disregarding my facts, I might as well take a stab at disregarding yours.

I do not dislike RR, I just do not like his style of play because of what I previously mentioned. It was why the argos lost to Calgary.

Sorry it’s just that I didn’t see any facts.

[FootbalYouBet]

@"oilerrocker"

@"FootbalYouBet"

that is because RR mostly throws low-risk high-percentage short-yardage passes. Great YAC getters such as durie and owen help pad his total yards.

That’s a lot of short yardage passes if he’s gone for over 5k yards for a few seasons. I have to ask why the hate for RR your not upset because the Lions have never had a QB of his caliber

That’s funny. So RR is better than Flutie, Dunigan, Kapp, Dickensen…

[ExPat]

@"cfleskfan"

@"FootbalYouBet"

that is because RR mostly throws low-risk high-percentage short-yardage passes. Great YAC getters such as durie and owen help pad his total yards.

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Sorry it’s just that I didn’t see any facts.

Fact: the QBs FYB likes threw exclusively high-risk, low-percentage, long passes to below average receivers who fell down or took a knee after catching the ball. That’s what made them so great.

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@"ExPat"

@"cfleskfan"

@"FootbalYouBet"

that is because RR mostly throws low-risk high-percentage short-yardage passes. Great YAC getters such as durie and owen help pad his total yards.

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Sorry it’s just that I didn’t see any facts.

Fact: the QBs FYB likes threw exclusively high-risk, low-percentage, long passes to below average receivers who fell down or took a knee after catching the ball. That’s what made them so great.

one extreme to the other ehh.

How about somewhere in between RR and what you described.