Anthony giving back to Amateur Football in Quebec

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Good to see, although I do hope that he’s not pushing or stressing the “faith” part of the family priorities to his students. It’s great that Anthony has found solace in religion, but that’s not really something that should be a part of any football curriculum.

AC shared with them what worked for him. I don’t think he should “delete” part of himself. There is nothing wrong with being honest about yourself. I doubt he’s pushing religion at a football camp. In fact I’m certain he isn’t.

Oh yeah, that's what I figured he's doing. No, he shouldn't have to hide parts of himself but in a pro setting, too much emphasis on one's faith might make non-religious players want to hide parts of themselves in turn. Especially football, which is such an uncomfortably Christian work environment (think about how Trestman ran the team!).

Yeah it was cringe worthy, to me at least, when he would decree " Take a knee" to the team.

Another was when he was first hired by the Bears, although not religious was his quote referring to Cutler.
" I can't wait to get my hands on him"
When I heard him say that at his opening presser I thought "Oh..oh". Just an obvious implied criticism that set himself up as a QB savior. Just a bad read of the situation I thought that put him at odds with a pro QB who had massive ego and performance issues.

Pour ma part, j'ai l'impression que quand Calvillo parle d'avoir la foi, c'est probablement davantage la foi en ses moyens que la foi en Dieu, bien que l'un n'exclut pas l'autre. Je ne crois pas que Calvillo se fasse prédicateur à l'occasion de ces sessions.

Calvillo était en grande période de doute après ses 3 saisons à Hamilton et il a décidé de persévérer en venant à Montréal derrière un très bon quart-arrière en fin de carrière. Il persisté à penser qu'il pourrait éclore dans des conditions qui lui seraient plus favorables et, tout en ne ménageant surtout pas ses efforts, il a réussi à s'élever au rang des meilleurs du métier. Peut-être que dans son cas, c'est la foi en Dieu qui lui a donné la foi en lui-même, mais pour d'autres, ce sera la foi en eux tout simplement. Je serais curieux d'avoir le point de vue de Ricky Ray sur cette même question.

Did you know that Trestman is Jewish?

Sigh. Yes, I know that. I meant to write Judeo-Christian in my initial post. And the fact is, he ran the team kind of like a Judeo-Christian cult. Making players take a knee for prayer, etc.

TSN has shown Higgins carrying on the "take a knee" tradition, also Milanovich in Toronto. Not sure about Popp.

On the other hand I can see a guy like Chris Jones giving a knee or 2 after a team loss.

Yes he did, never bothered me in the least
He always did it in a generic way

Now that I think about it. I dont remember if they prayed out loud or silently...Im leaning towards silently....That way if you were not religious, all you were doing was taking a knee.

No big deal IMO

Vrai, mais dans un pays de liberté de religion (et de non-religion), l'imposition d'un moment de prière n'est pas de mise.

You see a certain group from both teams kneeling in prayer on the field after games, which works for them. I dont think a full team should arbitrarily do it in the dressing room, unless its a simple period of meditation.

Also, would a coach impose this without prior discussion with team captains/leaders?

That is true but I doubt that anyone was forced to do so.
I truly doubt that Trestman forced his players to pray. I sure that he gave them the option and many non-believers went along with it because they chose to.

I would out of respect

Je vous le concède. C'est sans doute ce qui s'est passé.

No. Prayer has no business in any place outside church, mosque, or temple.

You don't think non-religious players felt pressured to conform to Trestman's football culture? If you think there wasn't pressure, I have some real estate in Florida to sell you.

After speaking with the man on several occasions, and reading his book...I honestly dont

Couldn't agree more.

We've got separation of church & state; we could also use a separation of church & sports.

Je ne partage pas cette vision où la foi se limite au lieu de culte. Pour ceux qui la pratiquent (et qu'on le partage ou non, c'est leur droit le plus strict), ils peuvent bien prier dans leur école, leur lieu de travail , un parc public ou la rue. La question est davantage que l'exercice de la prière ou de la religion ne doit pas être imposé aux autres dans un rapport civil en-dehors de ce qui est raisonnable, ce qui est le cas s'agissant des joueurs d'une équipe de football, entre autres. Si, par contre, tous les joueurs sont d'accord pour faire l'exercice d'une prière avant une partie sans considération pour l'existence ou pas d'une demande de leur entraîneur, ça demeure alors leur choix.

Je ne suis pas naïf pour autant. Si l'entraîneur-chef est celui qui choisit les joueurs qui vont sur le terrain et que, suivant sa conception de sa foi, tous ses joueurs doivent faire une prière avant d'aller sur le terrain, les joueurs qui tiennent à jouer se sentiront plus forcés d'y adhérer que de se mettre leur entraîneur à dos. Ceci n'a pas sa place dans une organisation.

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Johnny agrees 700% on this one. Wait, Johnny believes in verifiable science, so Johnny is 100% in agreement! (700% is too dubious a number...) :thup: [/i]

I don’t know why you guys care about this.

If people want to pray its their business. They let terrorists pray in Guantanamo Bay.

There is no way the Als impose,suggest,hypnotize religion on any employees in their organization. I am certain of that.