Adam Provost's Comments to the Spectator

Bob Young wrote (16 June 2006): ...we all want this story to just go away - for the good of the cheerleaders involved as well as for the Cheerleading team. Because of this I'm going to ask you all to ignore this topic for the next few months and will ask the mods to delete any reference to it.
Well, like the good fans we are, we all obeyed this request to the letter (except for WilltheThrill and his occasional crypic Sirius reference). But, reading Adam Provost's comments to the Spectator in Mikey's last thread, I'm assuming the moratorium's over:

"The two girls made a poor choice and made a mistake and paid a price"

I'm just curious as to whether this is a purposeful attempt to spin the story, or whether these comments stem from ignorance. Either way, it is a gross misrepresentation of what happened, and conveniently ignores the Ticat organization's involvement and consent in the lead-up to the cheerleaders' "poor choice." It's bad enough that they were hung out to dry when it happened, but re-writing history in this way is just plain wrong. Either $uck it up and come forth with the mea culpa (like Mr. Young did for the last two years in regard to the on-field product), or else let sleeping dogs lie. But if you must re-visit the topic, and if you must spin it in such an inaccurate and self-serving way, be prepared to be called out on it.

Hmm, and I was towing the party line that they resigned their positions.

Hey, isn't Sirius a League sponsor? What gives? Better visit that Sirius stage at Tiger Town.

Either way, it is a gross misrepresentation of what happened, and conveniently ignores the Ticat organization's involvement and consent in the lead-up to the cheerleaders' "poor choice."
What was the Ticats involvement? The Girls werent there as ticat employees.

no but as Ticat employees (hate to break it to you, but the CFL doesn't have cheerleaders that just cheer for the sake of cheering, they're all representing one team or another... so when they say CFL cheerleaders, they mean ticat cheerleaders,) they are representing our team on an international stage.

personally i wish they were still on the cheer team. but i can understand why they aren't.

They were employees of some fitness event. Yes, they did mention the CFL but what I cant understand is what is Bunners point? What is this Ticats organization involvement he speaks of?

At no time did they ever mention the CFL or the Hamilton Tiger-Cats.

Several persons from the "some fitness event" will tell you that due diligence was shown by the cheerleaders in question, in a way that makes the statement "the two girls made a poor choice" an inaccurate reflection of how that choice was ultimately arrived at.

Regardless, there was no official finding of guilt in the wake of this episode. The cheerleaders in question stepped down as a favour to the Ticats, the cheerleaders and the fans (to spare us the "shame" of it all, presumably). I was all in favour of ignoring this topic, as per Mr. Young's plea, but you can't simply hang them out to dry and say "the two girls made a poor choice" if perchance the circumstances were much more complicated than that.

My vested interest, for the record, is as someone who has previously been crushed under the Tiger-Cat organization's iron heel of moral ruthlessness.

Bunner,

You are wrong about that. They did mention they were CFL cheerleaders. Take a minute out and do some research.

These girls made some bad decisions when they chose to go on the show. Then they made even a worse decision when they allowed themselves to be ridiculed.
They represent the CFL. Moreover, they represent the Hamilton Tigercats. Their resignations were indeed, appropriate consequences for their inappropriate, embarrassing behavior.

They send the wrong message to our kids and even to adults who don't sanction these actions, myself included.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy looking at a pretty girl, but when the behavior of these girls becomes lewd, as was the case here,
when the girls in question chose to go on radio with a well known pervert, I object.

These actions kind of knock the hell out of family entertainment and cast aspersions on their employer which I'm sure, were unwarranted.

They did not. Listen to the show or read the transcript and tell me where they identify themselves as CFL cheerleaders.

Every newspaper article, blog, and discussion forum on the subject reported that they did not say they were CFL cheerleaders:

[url=http://theuniversalcynic.blogspot.com/2006/06/cheerleaders-fired.html]http://theuniversalcynic.blogspot.com/2 ... fired.html[/url] [url=http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=hamilton/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1150064107944&call_pageid=1112274690688&col=1112274690756]http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/NASApp ... 2274690756[/url] [url=http://www.13thman.com/cheers/viewtopic.php?t=28312&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45]http://www.13thman.com/cheers/viewtopic ... c&start=45[/url]

The following comments from Sean Everingham, the manager of the fitness event, also make this explicit:

Ashley and Deanna did not go on the Howard Stern show to affiliate themselves with the CFL. In fact the information that was supplied to the show originally only said they were professional cheerleaders. The show was also NOT supplied with the link to the CFL. Ashley and Deanna were not on there for self promotion either. In fact, they were selected out of hundreds of our athletes to promote 2 of our fitness competitions taking place this summer, FAME 2006 on June 16-18 at the International Centre and FAME Fallsview Fury on August 19th at the Niagara Fallsview Casino resort. The fact that it was emphasized that they were cheerleaders was not something we intended and actually disappointed us. FAME paid the expenses for this trip and expected that they would clearly plug them as FAME fitness models. Somewhere along the way, this got blurred. These girls did not bring up the fact they were cheerleaders; that was initiated by Howard. They also did not identify what team they were from, it was deduced by Howard fans. We are disappointed that the fact that they are affiliated with the CFL came up, and we hope the CFL can understand this and act accordingly.

I will send you the link from the show itself.

Try posting the link instead of pretending you are going to send it to a single poster which cannot be verified. There are a bunch of us who say you are full of it

Click Here

Bunner said:

At no time did they ever mention the CFL or the Hamilton Tiger-Cats.
Either way, it is a gross misrepresentation of what happened, and conveniently ignores the Ticat organization's involvement and consent in the lead-up to the cheerleaders' "poor choice."
What was the Ticats involvement?

Bunner...you just got burned by whoknows' link...

"Howard welcomed Deanna, 25, and Ashley, 21, two Canadian Football League cheerleaders who claim to be virgins"

And I fail to see any text or evidence from this link, linking these two ladies to the Ticats

Can you put this to rest now since you lost?

Firstly, I think what "who knows" was referring to was the statement on the website that "the girls also said they’re cheerleaders for Canada’s version of the NFL."

This is just an unsubstantiated statement from Howard Stern's website; it is not a quote from the cheerleaders in question. And it is not corroborated by the audio or the transcript of the show.

Secondly, the citation you provide is also not a quote from the cheerleaders. It is speculation on the part of Stern and his cohorts; speculation that turned out to be correct. It was the Stern show's journalistic skills that brought forth the topic of the CFL, not the cheerleaders in question. Sean Everingham's comments on how this situation came to be also make this clear. Again, listen to the show or read the transcript, and tell me where they say that they're CFL cheerleaders.

The question is not whether the CFL was mentioned. It was, several times, as can clearly be seen. The question is whether the cheerleaders in question said that they were CFL cheerleaders. They did not.

Maybe I'm slow these days but I don't recall this issue in any recent Spec article.

However, I believe the cheerleaders would have been identified quickly anyhow whether they said who they were or not on the Stern show. The reason for this would have been the fact that many people would have been aware that they went on the show in all likelihood (friends? family? colleagues? etc)....there's no way that secret could stay safe and in fact since it was a promotional thing to begin with, those involved in whatever they were promoting would know.....and everyone else I just mentioned would know full well they were Tiger-Cat cheerleaders....

..in fact, I recall the story breaking right here on this website.....the internet is a very easy thing to put a story like that forward..

....which now brings me to why I think the ladies had no choice but to leave the cheer team........there is a group called the Junior Ticat cheerleaders and from what I saw this season, seem to number at least 30 and is comprised of what looks to be 12-14 year old girls (in that approx. range anyhow).....I'm sure some of those parents would have reacted very negatively if the two senior cheerleaders kept their positions and no action was taken...especially since the Jr. squad would naturally look up to the Sr. squad as role models, mentors etc.......(whether real or imagined)

All in all, the two ladies made an error and yeah, were not helped by Stern whatsoever but he is what he is I suppose....but the mistake the ladies made is not a biggie in the grand scheme of life and I hope they are doing well, as I'm sure they are.

....well, those are my thoughts this morning on the subject.

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Bunner,

You are wrong about that. They did mention they were CFL cheerleaders. Take a minute out and do some research.

They did not. Listen to the show or read the transcript and tell me where they identify themselves as CFL cheerleaders.

Every newspaper article, blog, and discussion forum on the subject reported that they did not say they were CFL cheerleaders:

http://theuniversalcynic.blogspot.com/2 ... fired.html http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/NASApp ... 2274690756 http://www.13thman.com/cheers/viewtopic ... p;start=45

Bunner:
I took the time to read all of the articles you have sited here and still believe the team was right to ask for their resignations.

Between the three articles, there are comments either from Stern or the girls themselves about illicit sex, and the fact that they were cheerleaders in the CFL. How could these girls go on the Stern show without knowing the consequences?

Being there was bad enough, but discussions about oral sex and sexual preferences was even worse than the fact that by the time the show ended, the entire viewing audience knew where these girls were from and who they represented.

Where there's smoke, there's fire, and I say these girls had a pretty good idea how things would go when they went on this pervert's show.

Some example to pass on to the junior cheerleaders and to children, in general. They had to go!_________________

That is a very good question, and that is my point. Because we don't know the details of how that decision was arrived at, we cannot say that the cheerleaders in question are solely to blame, or that there was no extenuating circumstances. So, before we continue to excoriate them, this should be cleared up. Or, we should go back to the hover-cover/cone of silence days and just ignore it. But telling the media "they made a bad choice", with no mention either way about how that choice was arrived at, is wrong.

Because we don't know the details of how that decision was arrived at, we cannot say that the cheerleaders in question are solely to blame, or that there was no extenuating circumstances.
Are you asking the Ticats to answer that? Maybe you should ask FAME. FAME should have better prepared these girls seeing that is who they were representing.

I asked FAME already. Furthermore, they responded publicly and detailed their involvement at the time of the incident. The Tiger-Cats did not make any such clarification.

What do they need to clarify? They had no involvement in situation. You seem to keep beating around the bush. Do you think the Ticats were involved? How so? And what makes you think that?