A very good read on QB success and failure in the CFL

[url=http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Columnists/Lankhof/2010/06/27/14539951.html]http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Columnists/La ... 39951.html[/url]

This article illustrates perfectly why the impatient approach to QB development is the wrong approach

Too bad it's writen by a journalist who doesn't know a thing about developing qb's or the reasons why teams bounced them out of the league so fast.

Great article I'll scrutinise more later -- solid post AKT. :thup:

Buried really deep in the site archives on a lengthy argumentative post about Tim Tebow BEFORE he was drafted higher than anyone had thought for the NFL, and applicable to this topic, is an excellent article written by Herb Z with feedback from the best quarterback coach alive -- Marc Trestman:

[url=http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/prospect+Tebow+looks+Alouettes+head+coach+help/2501507/story.html]http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/p ... story.html[/url] [url=http://forums.cfl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=52861&hilit=trestman&start=60#p854173]viewtopic.php?f=1&t=52861&hilit=trestman&start=60#p854173[/url]

HOWEVER apparently that fine article is no longer available online. :cry: If you have some inside access to the archives of the Montreal Gazette, maybe you can access it because it is not coming up for me. :frowning: If you find another link, please share?

Kudos to Argotom (apologies to you Ti-Cats fans in advance, but there is another place or post to bash the Argos :stuck_out_tongue: ) for providing that classic and gem as well. :thup:

I remember the core of the feedback in that article, with numerous examples, before everyone got into a typically divisive battle on Tebow for more of his off-the-field personality than anything else, is that if a quarterback did not have a 60% completion percentage in amateur/college ball of any kind, the odds of the quarterback's professional sustained success statistically are extremely low. And we are not talking such a performance at the amateur level necessarily as a predictor of Hall of Fame greatness here but rather for sake of being a feature starting quarterback for longer than an average career with just a few solid seasons as minimum bar for professional success.

Also note there is this fine article by Pat Kirwan of the NFL with other great predictors of professional success:


The feedback in both applies to both the NFL and CFL for that matter.

I've posted this link before. Fascinating read comparing the selection of QB's and that of teachers.

[url=http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/12/15/081215fa_fact_gladwell?currentPage=all]http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008 ... ntPage=all[/url]

Here's another good article that discusses Gladwell and some other observers.

[url=http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2009/12/30/the-count-the-art-and-science-of-drafting-qbs/]http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2009/12/3 ... fting-qbs/[/url]

While not limited to QBs, the following paper, which I think has been posted on this forum before, discusses how NFL teams put too high a value on picking early in the draft.

[url=http://www.econ.berkeley.edu/~webfac/malmendier/e218_sp06/Thaler.pdf]http://www.econ.berkeley.edu/~webfac/ma ... Thaler.pdf[/url]

Holy cow Safetyblitz solid articles though that last one would take a statistician to understand in full I would think. :?

As most are not, at first glance pp. 27-32 look worth reading as well as a glance at some of the charts and graphs.

The last line says it all, you just don't know how a guy is going to react mentally up here. Otherwise, does he have the eye of the tiger, or is he like a deer starring in the headlights.

Strangely enough after reading that fine article in depth and learning more about Canadian football in the last few months, and seeing the greater mobility as required by the quarterback position and existent in the game before even the snap of the ball in Canadian football, the quarterback position in Canadian ball resembles more that of like the scrum half/stand off position in rugby (union)!

I don't know if that has anything with you all calling the position also "pivot" or not, but that sure makes sense because the quarterback position up there with the mobility requirements sure resembles a player who would be a scrum half who can also throw forward as of course is against the rules in rugby.

Other than the substantially common throwing motion, quarterback in Canadian football requires different physical skills and a far more different mindset than I would have imagined compared to American football of whatever offence.

Most people just see someone with a strong arm who can throw and think highly of said player's potential, but that's only the foundation with most of the position in either type of football at the professional level requiring so much more.

And indeed at the NCAA level way too many players get away with way too much at all positions for that matter due to most opponents just not near the match to their elite program athletically. The gap between the levels in mere athletic ability even before skill in the Top 8-10 NCAA programs in any given year compared to the rest is just plain vast.

That's why also you will see some of these hyped-up stars down here falter badly in even college bowl games because they can't perform at such a high level against competition that is also physically matched or superior as they could in their conference.

And normally overwhelmingly most of that competition comes from various talented player pools from the states of CA,TX,PA,OH, and FL mind you.

I liked the article originally posted.

Here's the next in the series from the same journalist, which I think is even better:

"How to make a CFL quarterback"